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11-29-2006, 08:24 PM
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My next batch of beer is going to be an Irish Red Ale of some sort, with Wyeast 1084 Irish yeast.
Would it be a horrible thing to dump 5 gallons of apple juice on top of the 1084 yeast cake? I'd like to make some Apfelwein, but I don't want to waste that wonderful yeast cake either...
Kevin
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11-29-2006, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin K
Would it be a horrible thing to dump 5 gallons of apple juice on top of the 1084 yeast cake? I'd like to make some Apfelwein, but I don't want to waste that wonderful yeast cake either...
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I think that would be a VERY bad idea. Don't you have a spare secondary or even a corney?
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11-29-2006, 08:31 PM
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I thought I had read earlier in this gargantuan thread that someone else had used the yeast cake from a previous beer.
Might have been too many homebrews though...
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11-29-2006, 09:27 PM
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The issue isn't that it won't ferment (it will).
The issue is whether the ale will flavor the apfelwein negatively (it might).
Usually you throw complimentary beers on the same cake.
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11-30-2006, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mew
I tasted some of my apfelwein as I was about to bottle it, but it tasted like pickles! Not vinegar, pickles. I did my primary for five days in an old pickle bucket because all my other fermenters were busy. I soaked the bucket in bleach overnight and then in water for a day before I used it. I thought that with such a long time in secondary and a short time in primary it would be okay. my question is this: will the pickle taste age out over the next few months, or is it there for good? I tasted it after about five days in the bottle and it was a little better, but still undrinkable. Did I waste this batch?
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Ick! I can't tell you on this. I don't use a secondary. I just pour the juice into a Carboy and let it rip.
On the bright side you did not spend a bunch of time makeing it, so if it's still bad after a month, be glad it's not a bunch of beer you took 6 hours to make.
Pickled Apfelwin. Hmm 
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11-30-2006, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin K
Would it be a horrible thing to dump 5 gallons of apple juice on top of the 1084 yeast cake? I'd like to make some Apfelwein, but I don't want to waste that wonderful yeast cake either...Kevin
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ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY DO NOT USE THE YEAST CAKE. BUY A 89 CENT PACKET OF MONTRACHET YEAST.
Ok, now that's off my chest. Follow my recipe and you will get great results. I can't help you if you vary on the juice, yeast, or if you use a pickle bucket for a fermenter. 
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11-30-2006, 02:16 PM
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Ok, the wife really wanted me to make this, and now it is sitting in my brew room/fermentation room, and is stinking up the whole house with sulfur, and she's not happy about it.
I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.
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11-30-2006, 02:21 PM
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The smell goes away pretty quickly, in my (limited) experience. It was really only one or two days at the most. Tell your wife that she's smelled rank for a lot longer than that, and you're still married to her. On second thought, don't.
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11-30-2006, 04:09 PM
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The smell goes away pretty quickly, in my (limited) experience. It was really only one or two days at the most. Tell your wife that she's smelled rank for a lot longer than that, and you're still married to her. On second thought, don't.
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*LoL*
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't get me anywhere. 
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11-30-2006, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Biermann
*LoL*
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't get me anywhere. 
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I can just about guarantee that it WILL get you somewhere - just nowhere you want to be.
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