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Old 11-09-2013, 07:22 PM   #11901
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What did you boil the sugar in? How much apple juice did you mix in? When did you mix the citric acid in? Thanks!
I boiled 2 cups of sugar to 1 cup of water and add citric acid before it starts to boil, put that in the bucket and added 6 gallons of apple juice. I believe 1 pound of granulated table sugar = (approx) 2 1/4 cups. I use 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid for every pound of sugar.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:55 PM   #11902
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I boiled 2 cups of sugar to 1 cup of water and add citric acid before it starts to boil, put that in the bucket and added 6 gallons of apple juice. I believe 1 pound of granulated table sugar = (approx) 2 1/4 cups. I use 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid for every pound of sugar.
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Is it finished? How does it compare to the original recipe? What yeast did you use?

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Old 11-09-2013, 11:18 PM   #11903
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Is it finished? How does it compare to the original recipe? What yeast did you use?

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I used montrachet and hydrated before pitching. I'm not sure there is much difference in the taste between fermented corn and cane sugar. I did use a little more sugar than the original recipe called for. I'm not sure what the ABV is. I didn't have a hydrometer to check the OG. It's only 33 days old and I have to say it's pretty tasty already. Like a dry white wine with just a hint of apple.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:13 AM   #11904
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My higher-ABV batch of apfelwein (OG 1.095) doesn't seem to want to ferment dry; it's been stuck for a weeks, and a week ago I racked and re-pitched with EC-1118. It was down to 1.02 a few weeks ago, and when I pulled a sample tonight it's only gone down to 1.017 or so. I'm cranking the heat in here (it's probably mid-60s) to 75 for a while, and I swirled the carboy in hopes of waking up my lazy yeast, haha. If I can't get it restarted, I don't hate the idea of a 10%ish lightly sweet cider, but that wasn't really what I'd planned. Any ideas?

Whether I get this to ferment dry or not, I think I'm going to rack and oak it with some medium toast French oak cubes for a month or two once I get it off the yeast and see what kind of results I get.

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Old 11-10-2013, 05:33 AM   #11905
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You might try degassing it. With the extra sugar you are making a lot of CO2 in solution which stresses the yeast.

You might also need some yeast enegizer. Apfelwein is pretty much just sugar and you gave it a lot of extra sugar to work through and it might be out of gas.

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Old 11-10-2013, 06:17 AM   #11906
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My higher-ABV batch of apfelwein (OG 1.095) doesn't seem to want to ferment dry; it's been stuck for a weeks, and a week ago I racked and re-pitched with EC-1118. It was down to 1.02 a few weeks ago, and when I pulled a sample tonight it's only gone down to 1.017 or so. I'm cranking the heat in here (it's probably mid-60s) to 75 for a while, and I swirled the carboy in hopes of waking up my lazy yeast, haha. If I can't get it restarted, I don't hate the idea of a 10%ish lightly sweet cider, but that wasn't really what I'd planned. Any ideas?

Whether I get this to ferment dry or not, I think I'm going to rack and oak it with some medium toast French oak cubes for a month or two once I get it off the yeast and see what kind of results I get.
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You might try degassing it. With the extra sugar you are making a lot of CO2 in solution which stresses the yeast.

You might also need some yeast enegizer. Apfelwein is pretty much just sugar and you gave it a lot of extra sugar to work through and it might be out of gas.
Yep yep. Give it a degassing. Raise the temp. Do the hokie pokie. If that doesn't work... Relax. If you are going to oak it for a couple months or more anyway it will probably finish then. Generally a "stuck" fermentation is less stuck and more slow. If you still don't have what you think is FG after oaking, then I would suggest bottle pasteurizing. More for safety then anything else.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:52 PM   #11907
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I've hit the two month mark and oddly enough I still have 5 bottles still and another full 5 gallons in carbed in bottles completely untouched. I think I'm going to bulk age this by racking it to get it off of the yeast. I want to let it sit another 2 months before bottling. I think I may add some oak to it too. Would you guys recommend adding anything to it when I rack it. K-Meta (campden) or Sorbate? Or ahould I just rack it and leave it with no worries?

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Old 11-10-2013, 07:39 PM   #11908
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I just bottled 5 gal. that's been sitting in the secondary since Dec 27th! It tasted wonderful and was soooo clear. I have another 5 gal. yet to bottle from the same date.

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I just bottled 5 gal. that's been sitting in the secondary since Dec 27th! It tasted wonderful and was soooo clear. I have another 5 gal. yet to bottle from the same date.
Did you just rack it to secondary or did you add k-meta or anything to it?
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I just racked off of the yeast and topped up with about 32oz more apple juice. I assume this will start fermentation again for a bit? I plan on leaving this sit at least another 2 months. Will it be okay without adding anything to it?

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