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Old 08-28-2012, 05:24 PM   #10201
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I have a question about the carbonating process (Sorry if it's already been answered... I couldn't seem to find the info)

When you say you add the extra sugar before bottling, like you would when carbonating beer, how exactly does that work? Do you add the sugar directly to the primary fermenter, or do you add a bit into each bottle?

Also, with the amount of sugar in the recipe that you add for carbonation, is there any risk of the bottles exploding from the pressure?

Thanks! Can't wait to try this out next week!
If you're going to bottle and carb the entire batch, use a carbonation calculator to figure out how much sugar you'll need to reach your desired level of carbonation. After the apfelwein has COMPLETELY fermented (confirmed by subsequent hydrometer readings that don't change, and for apfelwein should be below 1.000), rack it into your bottling bucket, melt the sugar into a little water and stir it in completely, and bottle as usual.

If fermentation was complete and you only add the amount of sugar from the calculator, there is no risk of bottle explosion. If you are worried you can bottle into plastic soda bottles, which allows you to monitor carbonation by squeezing the sides and let out pressure if you get nervous.

If you are only bottling part of the batch, it's about 3/4 tsp of sugar per bottle. It still helps to pre-dissolve the sugar in water and add that to the bottle.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:01 PM   #10202
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I ended up starting my first batch of apfelwein on Sunday. I ended up 7 ounces short on sugar at 25 ounces and also boiled 3 cinnamon sticks and a clove and added to primary.

Should I add the extra 7 ounces of sugar? I won't be able to hit the brew store until Saturday if so. How will 7 ounces of sugar short affect this? I'm assuming less alcohol content.

I didn't check my gravity either. Not terribly concerned at this point, but I am guessing I am a point or two below 1.066 to start.
I use table sugar. No ned for a trip to the brew store, dissolves just fine.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:32 PM   #10203
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The usual scenario with bottling 5 gallons (at least with beer) would be to boil 2 cups of water with 5 oz of corn sugar (dextrose or priming sugar) for 5 minutes, then add that to a bottling bucket and transfer the primary fermenter into the bottling bucket so that it mixes. Then bottle. If no bottling bucket, I would add it to the primary fermenter then stir and bottle.

Still wondering on my question of whether I should add the 7 ounces of corn sugar a week after fermentation starts. How it would be affected if I do or don't.

Had my window open for a while.

So just add 7 ounces of table sugar and all is good is what it sounds like.

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Old 08-29-2012, 11:24 AM   #10204
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I know this has been asked, but I couldn't find anything specific to my situation. I have two kegs of apfelwein for a party I am having in two weeks. (also three kegs beer) I think the apfelwein would go over better with the masses if it were sweetened. I like the idea of using concentrate to get a little more apple flavor. 1) How much concentrate would I use for a 5 gal. batch? 2) Would I have to kill off the yeast? (been aging for 6 months).

Also has anyone tried cinnamon sticks? Is it too late in the game to add them to the keg and leave in?

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Old 08-29-2012, 11:49 AM   #10205
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I know this has been asked, but I couldn't find anything specific to my situation. I have two kegs of apfelwein for a party I am having in two weeks. (also three kegs beer) I think the apfelwein would go over better with the masses if it were sweetened. I like the idea of using concentrate to get a little more apple flavor. 1) How much concentrate would I use for a 5 gal. batch? 2) Would I have to kill off the yeast? (been aging for 6 months).

Also has anyone tried cinnamon sticks? Is it too late in the game to add them to the keg and leave in?
Are the kegs cold? If so, the yeast activity would be somewhere between extremely slow and completely halted. I say add in the concentrate and leave them in the cooler. I don't know off hand how much. If you are handy in the math department you can figure it out. If I did my math correctly last time the concentrate I used was 1.144 SG. Figure out how many points of sugar you want to add back and go from there.

I would pass on the cinnamon sticks at this point. If its a failed experiment you have no Apfelwein for this party.
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Does apfelwein benefit from bottle conditioning? I bottled after six weeks in the primary and I wonder if it will improve in the bottles. I know next time to leave it in the primary for 3 to 6 months.

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Does apfelwein benefit from bottle conditioning? I bottled after six weeks in the primary and I wonder if it will improve in the bottles. I know next time to leave it in the primary for 3 to 6 months.
I believe anything will benefit from bottle conditioning. The difference is just that when bulk conditioning in the fermenter it will clean up a little faster because there is still more yeast there to clean up. I'm pretty sure that is what I have read from a few sources.
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I know this has been asked, but I couldn't find anything specific to my situation. I have two kegs of apfelwein for a party I am having in two weeks. (also three kegs beer) I think the apfelwein would go over better with the masses if it were sweetened. I like the idea of using concentrate to get a little more apple flavor. 1) How much concentrate would I use for a 5 gal. batch? 2) Would I have to kill off the yeast? (been aging for 6 months).

Also has anyone tried cinnamon sticks? Is it too late in the game to add them to the keg and leave in?
I would leave it alone.

Use the apfelwein as a mixer. Cup o' apfelwein + a splash of sprite/7-up/ginger ale (for sweetness) + fruit puree/juice/extract (more sweetness and flavor) and you'll have a ~10% ABV cocktail the ladies will love. If anyone wants cinnamon, provide the sticks as a stirrer.
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My english cider yeast was too old and the starter didn't work. My buddy just harvested yeast from his belgian IPA, do you guys think that would work well? I've already made a batch with montrache, but looking for something a little different.

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