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GeorgiaTiger 11-17-2012 10:07 PM

Glass vs Plastic
 
Im a complete newb and am planning on doing my first batch of red wine using Welch's grape concentrate. I have been doing a lot of research and am wondering if it really makes a difference between glass and plastic carboys? I want to do this right so figured I would ask here!

Thanks guys!

KBentley57 11-17-2012 10:19 PM

If you really want to do it right, buy a cheap wine kit. For the little extra money it costs, you'll get way better results. But on the plastic vs glass issue, you can ferment in either, but it needs to age in glass.

GeorgiaTiger 11-17-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KBentley57 (Post 4599337)
If you really want to do it right, buy a cheap wine kit. For the little extra money it costs, you'll get way better results. But on the plastic vs glass issue, you can ferment in either, but it needs to age in glass.

What kind of cheap wine kit? Can you make a suggestion? I like cabs so would want something like a cab.

GeorgiaTiger 11-17-2012 10:52 PM

Also, where would I get one? Suggest a website?

Yooper 11-17-2012 10:56 PM

This one's not bad for a cheapo: http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/world-vineyard-french-cabernet-sauvignon.html

It's not very complex, but it's fast and easy and about the cheapest wine kit around. A wine kit makes 6 gallons, so you'd need a 6 gallon carboy (glass or plastic, doesn't matter, but it has to be a carboy).

saramc 11-17-2012 10:59 PM

Wine kits come in two thoughts....an equipment supply kit vs the actual wine itself. You can also get a combo of equipment with a basic wine kit for a goid price. If looking for a wine product, not the equipment, it all depends on where you live. US has a wide selection while Canada has some different and same product lines, vice versa.

If looking for a cabernet, go for midline, something in the $100 range. This will yield five or six gallons, 25 vs 30 bottles. As a beginner, I would not recommend dealing with skins, it can overwhelm some. But, be prepared for the aging of a year minimum. When you run i.to products marketed as four week, six week, etc...that is not a timeframe of readiness for consumption. The exception being the mist/twist style kits. Consider that a low end product needs just as much aging as a high end product.

And I use glass and BetterBottle type product...do not use plastic water bottles except for emergency racking. Just my two cents....I find if I have an empty carboy I fill it, so the water bottle keeps me with a wee bit more money in my pocket.

DoctorCAD 11-17-2012 10:59 PM

Look on the main page for Vendor List and start picking items and ingrediants.

Oh, and you can use plastic Better Bottles for wine.

GeorgiaTiger 11-17-2012 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DoctorCAD (Post 4599417)

Oh, and you can use plastic Better Bottles for wine.

So I CAN use plastic for making and fermenting? Im confused...kbently says it needs to age in glass...is he talking about once its done and bottled? I would definitely use glass bottles.

Sorry Im so stupid with this, but Im trying to learn.

saramc 11-17-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaTiger

So I CAN use plastic for making and fermenting? Im confused...kbently says it needs to age in glass...is he talking about once its done and bottled? I would definitely use glass bottles.

Sorry Im so stupid with this, but Im trying to learn.

I have aged in BB for a year + with no issues. Many people prefer glass, but if you visit the BetterBottle website you will see that aging is fine. A matter of preference. Plastic bottles, like that of a office water bottle are a no go.

KBentley57 11-17-2012 11:33 PM

It's cool, don't worry.

What they are referring to is the primary fermentation period, that last only a few weeks. In this case, since the yeast are actively producing much CO2, there is no harm of oxygen spoiling the wine, so it doesn't matter that it is in either a bucket or in a carboy. Once that stage has subsided, you will rack into a glass carboy to ferment to completion, and to let clear. It is likely that you will rack it again to either the same carboy or a new, clean one a few times over a span of many months before you bottle it.

You've got a bit of reading to do! But that's the fun part. :)


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