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MA-Honey 01-23-2013 12:45 PM

First wine
 
I started making my first wine on January 12. It is a kit wine. My numbers for sg have been significantly different than what the kit says so I want to make sure I didn't mess it up. According to the kit, the initial sg should be 1.048-1.052, 1.010 after primary fermentation and .996 at stabilizing. My numbers were 1.042, .994 and I haven't stabilized. I have used hydrometers before and I know I am reading it right but is there something that I should do or should have done?

Yooper 01-23-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MA-Honey (Post 4816133)
I started making my first wine on January 12. It is a kit wine. My numbers for sg have been significantly different than what the kit says so I want to make sure I didn't mess it up. According to the kit, the initial sg should be 1.048-1.052, 1.010 after primary fermentation and .996 at stabilizing. My numbers were 1.042, .994 and I haven't stabilized. I have used hydrometers before and I know I am reading it right but is there something that I should do or should have done?

There isn't much difference between .994 and .996, so it sounds exactly right. It might go down a tiny bit more, but it sounds like it's just about done.

MA-Honey 01-23-2013 12:52 PM

I read somewhere that if this happens that you should stir it every couple days. Also I have another 5 days till I should be stabilizing it. Do I stir it or just let it be?

Yooper 01-23-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MA-Honey (Post 4816151)
I read somewhere that if this happens that you should stir it every couple days. Also I have another 5 days till I should be stabilizing it. Do I stir it or just let it be?

Do NOT stir! Whatever you do, don't agitate, stir, mix, or otherwise oxygenate the wine.

It's done. It might drop a couple more points, but it's pretty much done. All stirring will do is ruin a perfectly good wine.

Ridenour64 01-23-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Yooper

Do NOT stir! Whatever you do, don't agitate, stir, mix, or otherwise oxygenate the wine.

It's done. It might drop a couple more points, but it's pretty much done. All stirring will do is ruin a perfectly good wine.

What about degassing yooper. You have to agitate it to degass the wine. I am also new and on my first wine kit.

saramc 01-23-2013 07:34 PM

Ridenour...do you plan to age this in carboy for a bit? If so, say 90 days or more, 6 months even better, 9 months great and you will find that time is a natural degasser. I age everything now for at least nine months and rarely have an issue with degassing.
But a kit will benefit from some extended kit in carboy. What kind of kit are you making?

Sara

Yooper 01-23-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridenour64 (Post 4817237)
What about degassing yooper. You have to agitate it to degass the wine. I am also new and on my first wine kit.

Degassing is done in a carboy, and you add campden to it to keep oxygen from binding with it.

I've only degassed wine kits, for the most part, and that's because they are rushed to the bottle.

For "real" wine, I've actually only had ONE that needed degassing in all the years I've been doing this. I have no idea why that one batch held on to the gas for so long, but that's the only one in over 200+ batches of wine.

I'm not a degassing fan, but when done as part of the kit in the directions when k-meta is added, no harm will come to it.

Otherwise mucking about in the wine, stirring or shaking, or not topping up appropriately is a bad idea and in almost all cases a "fix" like that for a wine that is perfectly fine will compromise the wine.

jflongo 01-23-2013 08:45 PM

According to my wine kit, degassing is part of the 3rd stage.

1st stage, make it, let it ferment for necessary time, let mine go 8 days
2nd stage, rack it to a new carboy, let it sit for 10 days
3rd stage, add packets 3 and 4, and then it says "Winexpert kits require that you stir the sediment back into suspension. etc"

this is the stage where mine says to de-gas it and mix the sediment back in, so you have to stir it vigorously

Not sure about your kit, but that is how mine works.

After it is fully degassed is when you add the last packet

MA-Honey 01-23-2013 10:31 PM

Ok. Thanks for the help yooper and everyone else.

Ridenour64 01-24-2013 01:19 AM

I am making an island mist peach Chardonnay. But thanks Sara and yooper that helps a lot. I also have a 1 gallon batch of edworts apfelwein I just started 2 days ago. I'm so excited to try them both. Waiting sucks but it will be worth it.


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