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Old 09-30-2006, 02:56 AM   #1
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I juiced about 50 pounds of apples to produce 3+ full gallons of raw juice/cider. I racked it a couple of times while it was still just the pressed juice to get rid of a lot of sediment.

It started to ferment on it's own, so I added about 2 crushed campden tablets to the carboy and let it sit for a full 48 hours with NO AIRLOCK to prevent the HSO2 from escaping.

I tried to proof a packet of refrigerated Lavlin K1V-1116 (expiration date in 2008) with no effect, so I pitched it anyway. Must was about 66 degrees.

NO ACTIVITY within 24 hours.

So I put a heating pad under the carboy. It's now about 70-72 degrees.

I proofed a packed of refrigerated Lavlin 71B-1122 (expiration 2008), but it's reaction rate was ANEMIC! I pitched it anyway. That was 5 hours ago and it hasn't done a damn thing.

I'll give it another 24 hours.

I have sufficient sugar, yeast nutrient and yeast energizers in the must.

I proofed a packet of 71B-1122 from the same lot, stored in the same way a week ago and the apple wine it's in is fermenting vigorously.

What do I do if fermentation isn't starting???

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Did you get an OG of the juice before the wild yeasts started to ferment it? Have you added any other sugars to it?

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Yes, the OG was higher than any other concoction I've ever made 1.08-something!


As per recipe, I added about 2 lbs sugar per gallon.

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I just had a peach wine that took over a week to get going. My wine guy told me I most likely over sulphited it(campden), and it would take awhile for this to break down. Make sure it's airated properly and give it a good stir every other day. Good luck.

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Old 10-01-2006, 03:28 PM   #5
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I let the campden work for 48 hours - 24 hours longer than usually recommended, so I think that had little effect.

I pitched my first packet of yeast after an attempted proofing (it never started) and it never started in the must. So I pitched a second packet, which started VERY slowly, but then, 24 hours after that second pitching, took off. Now, 36 hours after second pitching, it's going gangbusters. I hope I didn't overpitch!!

And I mispoke when earlier said my 1.086 OG was higher than anything else. Looking back over my records, I see OG in the 1.133 and 1.176 ranges for other things, notably ice wine!

Bottom line is I need to learn a little patience.

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It does happen sometimes where you think it's never going to start fermenting despite everything being 'text book perfect'.

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