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Old 12-26-2009, 03:52 PM   #1
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Default Ferment the F-Pack?

I was given a Wine Expert Selections Reisling Ice wine kit for x-mas. However, I hate sweet wine. Should I leave the F-pack out entirely or should I mix it into the must at the start and allow it to ferment?

Also, which of the following yeast would you recommend to make this into a dry wine?:
-EC-111e
-K1V-1116
-71B-1122
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Old 12-26-2009, 03:59 PM   #2
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Nothing will make a Riesling into a dry red, it is a white. Add flaver pack at secondary if you don't want sweet. I would use the 1122, it can be dry and still have its fruit taste, my opinion that MAKES A GOOD RIESLING. I

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Old 12-26-2009, 04:13 PM   #3
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Nothing will make a Riesling into a dry red, it is a white. Add flaver pack at secondary if you don't want sweet. I would use the 1122, it can be dry and still have its fruit taste, my opinion that MAKES A GOOD RIESLING. I
Sorry. i meant dry wine. Not thinking well this morning.

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Old 12-26-2009, 05:12 PM   #4
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I dont know, these have a pretty high starting sg sometimes and if so leave it out entirely or it may not finish fermenting and end up very sweet anyways.

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I dont know, these have a pretty high starting sg sometimes and if so leave it out entirely or it may not finish fermenting and end up very sweet anyways.
Good point. The kit instructions say OG should be 1.155-1.165. This looks to be w/o the f-pack. According to my hydrometer, potential alcohol would be over 20%. It looks like the yeast will not be able to ferment this dry.

I'm guessing that this is a long-shot, but.... Is there any chance of getting decent results from diluting the kit with either extra water or maybe welches white grape juice to get a 5-gallon batch of dry wine?
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Why not follow the directions with the kit, and use the yeast included?

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Total waste of money to buy an Ice Wine kit and not make Ice Wine with it.

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Make it as designed and give it out as gifts next year. Fpack would contain sorbate, and sg is extremely high most yeast will have issues getting started let alone finishing in the style range.

Also could just see where it finishes on gravity and skip the adding the fpack all together

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Total waste of money to buy an Ice Wine kit and not make Ice Wine with it.
As stated in my original post, it was a gift. I did not buy it.


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Make it as designed and give it out as gifts next year. Fpack would contain sorbate, and sg is extremely high most yeast will have issues getting started let alone finishing in the style range.

Also could just see where it finishes on gravity and skip the adding the fpack all together
I think this is what I'm going to do. Just make the kit without the f-pack and give it away if it turns out too sweet for me.
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I think this is what I'm going to do. Just make the kit without the f-pack and give it away if it turns out too sweet for me.
I was told on another forum recently that if I left the f-pack out of my Blackberry Merlot that I would be depriving the wine of a good bit of flavor that was designed to be included in the wine.
I was also told that I could put half of the f-pack in with the juice and ferment in the primary... adding the other half at the end of fermentation just prior to adding sulfide and sorbate... or was it after adding the chemicals.
Anyway, if this would work why couldn't you add the entire f-pack up front? Surely it doesn't contain that much sorbate?
Or... add the f-pack after primary fermentation has begun. Sorbate will not stop a good strong fermentation... it will only impede a stalled fermentation from restarting.
Hey... what do you have to lose? I bet this will make a nice, flavorful, dry wine.
Good luck...
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