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Old 08-22-2013, 12:09 AM   #21
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Fermented drinks made from fruits and vegetables, but not grain, are called wine with a modifier (strawberry wine, beet wine, etc.).

I do think, from a historical standpoint (and linguistic standpoint) the word "wine" means "fermented alcoholic grape beverage", and so if we are going to be persnickity about language, we should at least be correct in our persnickitiness.

I remembered there was something to your connection of moonshine and "hooch", and you are right, sort of.

"hooch" is a derivative of "Hoochinoo", which is the name of both a former Alaskan Aboriginal tribe of Admirality Island and the name of the distilled liquor they made and sold to soldiers in the area. (from OED)

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Old 08-22-2013, 01:17 AM   #22
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I say wine is fermented fruit without heating anything. You need heat to make beer or liquor. Quality of wine is a different subject. Mad dog 20/20 is not from napa valley

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I say wine is fermented fruit without heating anything. You need heat to make beer or liquor. Quality of wine is a different subject. Mad dog 20/20 is not from napa valley
ciders are made without heat. Oh, and every wine recipe in the index calls for you to heat up water to melt sugar to boost ABV.

I know... I'm being picky; but that is kind of what this thread seems to be about.
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I say wine is fermented fruit without heating anything. You need heat to make beer or liquor. Quality of wine is a different subject. Mad dog 20/20 is not from napa valley
Oh, then that blows my dandelion wine recipe and banana wine out of "wine" making. Heat extraction is common for some wine styles, although not all of course.
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Oh, then that blows my dandelion wine recipe and banana wine out of "wine" making. Heat extraction is common for some wine styles, although not all of course.
Roger that on the heat extraction. I learned something new. I just use spring water making wine. I use to boil, but that is such a pain to do
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