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I'm confused by a lot of the 'wine' recipes on here. Is there a definition of what exactly wine is? A percentage of the fermentables that have to be from fruit or juice? Some of the beverages in this subforum are sugar based with fruit or other flavorings. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, it just doesn't seem like wine.



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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wine+site%3Aen.wikipedia.org


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"Wine" doesn't have a real definition as far as I know.

I know many winemakers call just about anything fermented "wine", while others only consider beverages made from actual wine grapes as "wine".

My personal definition is that fruit (or fruit juice) that is fermented is "wine", even if other fermentables are added, unless it has another definition (like perry, cider, or mead). A sugar wash (like used for distilling) isn't "wine", but 3 pounds of rhubarb and a pound of sugar IS.

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Wine is any kind of fruit juice that is fermented, cleared, and bottled. The addition of sugar to the must is called Chaptalization. Chaptalization is an accepted method of commercial wine making so there you go.

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The definition is right there...

"Wine is an alcoholic beverage made from fermented grapes or other fruits."

"Wines made from produce besides grapes are usually named after the product from which they are produced (for example, rice wine, pomegranate wine, apple wine and elderberry wine) and are generically called fruit wine. The term "wine" can also refer to starch-fermented or fortified beverages having higher alcohol content, such as barley wine or sake."

There's also information on the classification of wines, et al.
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The definition is right there...

"Wine is an alcoholic beverage made from fermented grapes or other fruits."

"Wines made from produce besides grapes are usually named after the product from which they are produced (for example, rice wine, pomegranate wine, apple wine and elderberry wine) and are generically called fruit wine. The term "wine" can also refer to starch-fermented or fortified beverages having higher alcohol content, such as barley wine or sake."

There's also information on the classification of wines, et al.
Ok, you've out-trolled me, you win. I should have asked what I really want to know which is 'Why is Skeeter Pee in the wine forum?'
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Ok, you've out-trolled me, you win. I should have asked what I really want to know which is 'Why is Skeeter Pee in the wine forum?'
Because we don't have a hooch forum.
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I guess technically it's fermented lemonade (?) which is made out of lemons so it's a lemonade wine? I guess that's a stretch though. "Hooch" would be describe it. It's not "pruno" since it wasn't made in prison with ketchup packages.

I've just always talked about "wine" as a fermented fruit or fruit juice and sometimes wine lovers have corrected me to the real wine, grape wine from wine grapes. I'm not nearly as discriminating, I guess!
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I guess technically it's fermented lemonade (?) which is made out of lemons so it's a lemonade wine? I guess that's a stretch though. "Hooch" would be describe it. It's not "pruno" since it wasn't made in prison with ketchup packages.

I've just always talked about "wine" as a fermented fruit or fruit juice and sometimes wine lovers have corrected me to the real wine, grape wine from wine grapes. I'm not nearly as discriminating, I guess!
I think fermented lemonade would be about 1% abv. I wonder if Creamy Goodness knows about 'pruno'.

So where's the cutoff? 51% fruit by weight?

Why no hooch forum? Slippery slope to folks discussing washes? I'm actually interested in trying some rhubarb wine, but even though it's your recipe, I'm weary of anything in the same forum with Skeeter Pee. I accidentally drank some at NHC. Gah!


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