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Old 02-27-2011, 10:49 PM   #1
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Default carboy size?

noob questions here, sorry but since the wine section does not have the abundance of stiky posts answering stuff like this i gotta ask. If for now my wine making will stay exclusive 2 kits, and each kit makes 6gal, will a 6.5g carboy be sufficient? I do not want to use plastic if i can help it. will that do or do i need bigger?

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Old 02-27-2011, 11:29 PM   #2
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you need more space for a 6 gal kit, you need at least 7 gal of space. Why are you avoiding plastic? It doesn't make a difference in your wine.

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Old 02-28-2011, 12:10 AM   #3
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You really need about 7 to an 8 gallon bucket for primary then you NEED a 6 gallon carboy. I did my first wine in my 6.5 gallon brew bucket and it was way to close to the top for comfort but it worked. Also during primary, you usually do not seal it off with an airlock as the yeast actually needs Oxygen. Some people go as far as to stir and introduce O2 for the first few days. Putting it in a carboy probably wouldn't be a good idea.

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Your wine has to be topped off (generally) after primary fermentation. So you would need to add .5 gallons of some similar finished wine to top it off in a 6.5 gallon carboy. I wouldn't want to risk a kit by having too much head space.

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Ok some background is needed. I am a beer brewer. i have two 7 gal plastic ferm buckets and a 5 gal carboy for my beer, my buddy has an equipment kit coming in with ?????? not sure all it has other than a 6.5gal carboy. I know how easily they get scratched and how important sanitation is(plastic buckets). I am starting wine with a buddy of mine who is dead against plastic no matter what I say. So therefore if i cannot convince him to go plastic, is the gerneral concensus that i need to have him/us buy a 15gal demijon for fementation? Stainless connical? LOL I thought I had all my equipment purchased.

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No, the general concensus is to use a 8 gallon plastic fermenting pail and a 6 gallon glass or plastic carboy.

The kit will have both, most likely.

Sanitation is pretty easy in a plastic bucket, don't know what the issue is????

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This issue is his refusal to go plastic whatever his reason is. Hell it took me 2.5 years to get off his wallet and go this far. I'm sure it will take me another 2.5 to get him to use plastic fermentors.

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This issue is his refusal to go plastic whatever his reason is. Hell it took me 2.5 years to get off his wallet and go this far. I'm sure it will take me another 2.5 to get him to use plastic fermentors.
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If he is the one refusing to go with plastic, you should make HIM pay for the Demi. Bottom line, he wants something that is easily three times the price of what he needs. You chip in your $10 (about the price of half a bucket) and make him pay the rest.

FWIW- We use buckets or even (sanitized) garbage cans for small fermentation at a professional winery. This year we had a huge issue with space (biggest harvest ever) so we had to improvise. The wine wasn't hurt, and it is turning out to be some of the best wine the winery has ever made.

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Lol well the demi does give me the ability to do a 10 gal batch of beer. so i dont mind paying for half of it.

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if you don't want to spend more cash can't you just downsize the ingredients a little to match your fermenter or split the batch in half?

your friend probably doesn't want to use plastic for this reason:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/bpa-hazard-myth-172188/

i personally wouldn't buy wine if i knew it was made in trash cans - too many chemicals leech from plastics, even food grade.

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