Spike Brewing 12.5 Conical Fermenter Giveaway - Enter Now!

Home Brew Forums > Wine, Mead, Cider, Sake & Soda > Wine Making Forum > Can wine have a vinegar taste that will go away with aging?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-10-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
porcupine73
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fort Meade
Posts: 811
Liked 45 Times on 41 Posts
Likes Given: 513

Default Can wine have a vinegar taste that will go away with aging?

So in racking a batch of fairly young mixed fruit wine (about 5 weeks old), I tasted some, and it seemed like it tasted a bit vinegary. But I'm not completely sure, it had some limes in it, and I think I might have just been tasting the limes.

Is it possible for it to have a vinegary taste that will go away with aging? Or is it much more likely that I'm just hosed and ended up with too much acetobacter growth in there? It was basically an open ferment for the first week with the fruit must before transferring to the carboy, maybe that was way too long of an open ferment.

__________________
porcupine73 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-10-2012, 05:06 PM   #2
Bensiff
Mind Your Business
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Bensiff's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: , Washington, the state
Posts: 4,460
Liked 302 Times on 242 Posts
Likes Given: 53

Default

Like all things give it time to see for sure, I could see a strong acid note being hard to distinguish. If it is vinegar, than you are, as you said, "hosed."

__________________
Bensiff is offline
porcupine73 Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-11-2012, 04:50 AM   #3
Honda88
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pella, IA
Posts: 681
Liked 22 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 51

Default

if it is vinegar you will see bacterial growth in the bottles, if you done see any bacterial growth then you dont have vinegar. what you are tasting is likely a sour taste and not vinegar. Young wine will typically make you pucker a bit till it mellows out....cheers

__________________
Honda88 is offline
porcupine73 Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-08-2012, 10:15 PM   #4
porcupine73
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fort Meade
Posts: 811
Liked 45 Times on 41 Posts
Likes Given: 513

Default

Ok I'm dipping into the first bottle now, so it's been in the bottles only a month. It's young but it's my next in line until my aged supplies build up over the year. It doesn't really taste vinegary, maybe slightly now, it does have what I would describe as a slight off taste, and there is a slight whitish film on top, I am thinking many of my brews may have a bit of Brett in them.

There is a small amount of lees droppage in the bottles, it tastes a little like it might be the lees flavor. Hm the smell is slightly offensive but if I drink it without smelling it it tastes pretty good. Hm it's also slightly sour, that I actually like. Some of these I primed the gallon jugs for carbonation, I like that too, a bit of fizz makes it nice.

Some of these had fruits I just rinsed and added without using campden and such, so who knows what kinds of wild things might have gotten into these. I picked up some Camden tablets and Starsan, I think I may need to start being a bit more careful with sanitization.

eta .. hm oh yes it has a goodly amount of alcohol in it ... stronger than my previous batches but I got more adventurous with more sweeteners too I think ... it tastes a little bit like an electrical fire. I've been accused of making 'hooch' on here before, I'm not trying to make hooch, I'm trying to make the best I can with good ingredients, but I have some learning to do I think ...

eta2 ... ah it's not electrical fire, it's peach! After it's in the glass and gets a chance to breathe a wonderful peach flavor comes out. Nice! Hm my label just says 'mead with raisins 9/1/12' so I'm not sure where the peach flavor would be coming from.

eta3 ... wow this stuff is s t r o n g really sneaks up on you, I think I should move this to the drunken ramblings forum now ...

__________________
porcupine73 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-10-2012, 01:01 PM   #5
saramc
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: suburb of Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,743
Liked 146 Times on 132 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

I would recommend decanting the wine when serving as this will allow you to keep the lees in bottom of wine, and consider giving the wine time to breathe before serving...to see if some of the odor goes away prior to drinking.

But, if it is vinegar it is not going to go away. Thorough and proper cleaning and sanitizing is key with your equipment, and the choice of natyral yeast on fruit vs wine yeast can be like playing Russian roulette if you opt for natural. Did you use any Campden prior to bottling, or at all? The best thing you have at hand is what seems to be some high octane wine/mead, so that alone will help on the bacterial side, but not a fail-safe cure all. I think we all learn from each batch we make.

....Sara

__________________

Motto: quel che sara sara

saramc is offline
porcupine73 Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-10-2012, 02:15 PM   #6
WilliamSlayer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
Posts: 1,302
Liked 114 Times on 108 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

You could stabilize it, then use it for blending, but if its already in bottles, maybe use it for 'topping off'?

__________________
WilliamSlayer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vinegar smell and taste Leeds1 General Beer Discussion 6 12-11-2011 02:19 AM
Wine starting to have vinegar taste - kegged cruelkix Wine Making Forum 17 12-02-2011 04:34 AM
Sweet vinegar taste? Catnip_X07 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 10 10-26-2011 02:23 AM
First Brew First Taste: Vinegar/Sharp/Turned Cider taste. ErikHoppy Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 12 03-14-2010 06:24 PM
hot/vinegar taste... what now? shoebag22 General Techniques 13 08-30-2008 03:25 AM