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Old 03-14-2009, 04:08 PM   #1
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Ok, I decided to start a batch of apfelwein and thought I could do some experimenting as well.

Batch Stats:

2gal size
6 cans of frozen apple concentrate
1lb corn sugar


Fun part:

I want to better understand beer yeast strains so I started one batch with Montrachet yeast and started the other batch with Safbrew T-58. The T-58 is supposed to be spicy/peppery. The goal is to use the supposed neutral palate of apfelwein to discern the yeast properties. After 5days I will pitch 1/2 pack of Montrachet yeast to do a sort of secondary fermentation to ensure the alcohol content is the same as the control batch.

The fun part is experimenting with all of the interesting dry yeast strains out there. Next will be Windsor and maybe something esle. Maybe a hefe strain with enhanced banana profile.

Who knows, the phenolic characters of the beer yeasts plus the cleanness of Montrachet will make for some interesting apfelwein variants.


Ok now I off to smell the airlock again

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Old 03-14-2009, 05:13 PM   #2
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wow thats a TON of fermentables. your OG has to be over 1.100, did you take a reading? i doubt any ale yeast will take that even close to dry

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wow thats a TON of fermentables. your OG has to be over 1.100, did you take a reading? i doubt any ale yeast will take that even close to dry
LOL! That is point of apfelwein!

I followed the directions on the concentrate containers. 3cans for 1 gal of juice.

T-58 can handle up to 11% if I remember correctly, but when the beer yeast quits the Montrachet will continue working

I decided not to take any readings, mostly because I have no hydrometer. I could use the refractometer at work but home is where I can be less precise.
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oh my bad, i thought you used two gallons juice PLUS all that concentrate!
yeah man should be nice, especially the one with the beer yeast

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PU!!

I now understand the concept of rhino flatulence.

I am glad this is only short term. So is my wife
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What? Did the beer yeast stink up the place?
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Nope,

The beer yeast was just fine. There has been a number of observations that Montrachet + Apple juice creates an aroma lovingly dubbed: Rhino farts

I just racked these over and they smell really good now. The beer yeast added a new dimension to the AW. I can see the spicy character attributed to T-58. I had to try a sample of each and even green they are both good.

Can't wait to see them great

I think this will be my way of understanding the contributions of the yeast from now on.

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I'm using Wyeast nutrient with my second batch of Apfelwein and Montrachet. I haven't noticed much if any rhino farting.

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Whoever said that Ed's apfelwein got you drunk at warp-speed was 100% correct.

I don't have any montrachet at the moment, anyone else use a different wine yeast for apfelwein?

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I don't have any montrachet at the moment, anyone else use a different wine yeast for apfelwein?
I've used Premier Cuvee and Lavin 1118 with great results.
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