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Old 08-09-2013, 09:34 PM   #1
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When I started brewing about two years ago, I did a few extract batches and then went straight to BIAB and all grain. I never even considered a 2 or 3 vessle systems and have made many great brews (in my and my neighbors opinions). However, I am now looking to go from gas fired BIAB to electric BIAB and was wondering if I should consider going 3 vessel HERMS or RIMS. I LOVE the simplicity of BIAB but almost all of my parts can be used in a 3 vessel system. What am I missing out on? Why do so many people go 3 vessel?

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Here is my two cents worth. I think that many people got into all grain brewing before there were accepted procedures such as batch sparging or no sparge methods. That is, they got their systems set up before BIAB brewing really became popular. I am not sure that there are that many people moving from BIAB to Three-Vessel brewing. I do know that there are some who are moving from Three-Vessel brewing to BIAB because of the simplicity of it all.

I have not done BIAB, but I am intrigued by the idea.

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Old 08-09-2013, 10:25 PM   #3
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I went from traditional mash tun (cooler) AG and kettle on a propane burner to single vessel recirculating E-BIAB with a 15.5 gallon keggle and plate chiller.

Lovin it. My rig sits on the wheeled chassis from an old gas grill I once had. I installed a simple game hoist on the ceiling on the garage to lift and hold the grain bag. It takes up little space and I can easily wheel it around as needed for filling, cleaning, etc.. When I'm done cleaning it, I unplug the control box (built using one of PJ's schematics) from the spa panel and store it inside the house.
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It's tougher to do step mashes via BIAB, but I never do them, so I stick with the system that cost me nothing to build and costs nothing to keep doing.

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I'm already at 10 gallon batches, and I see larger in my future. I batch sparge Dennybrew style, so cash layout was minimal.

If I was only doing 5 gallons at a time I would probably BIAB. How big of a grain bill can you do in a keggle with a 10 gallon batch?

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I'm already at 10 gallon batches, and I see larger in my future. I batch sparge Dennybrew style, so cash layout was minimal.

If I was only doing 5 gallons at a time I would probably BIAB. How big of a grain bill can you do in a keggle with a 10 gallon batch?
I've done 30 lb grain bills in mine. Could probably do more, just haven't needed to yet.
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The main reason that I see for going from BIAB to a 3 vessel system is batch size. I have a hard enough time lifting the grain bag out with 5 gallon batches, never mind larger.

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The main reason that I see for going from BIAB to a 3 vessel system is batch size. I have a hard enough time lifting the grain bag out with 5 gallon batches, never mind larger.

Are you lifting the bag out by hand or with mechanical assistance?

I'm using one of these (minus the clothes hanger looking thing) which is working nicely - http://www.amazon.com/Hunters-Specialties-Lift-System-Gambrel/dp/B003RY9YIU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I could probably pull off a 10 gallon batch of a light/moderate gravity brew, but I don't really need that kind of volume at this time.
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I am about to do my first biab tomorrow, ive been doing a more traditional ag setup.

For lifting the bag, i probably have overkilled it since i have an engine hoist in my garage lol

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Are you lifting the bag out by hand or with mechanical assistance?

I'm using one of these (minus the clothes hanger looking thing) which is working nicely - http://www.amazon.com/Hunters-Specialties-Lift-System-Gambrel/dp/B003RY9YIU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I could probably pull off a 10 gallon batch of a light/moderate gravity brew, but I don't really need that kind of volume at this time.
I do it by hand. I'd rather invest in other equipment before spending on a hoist, never mind where I'd do it.
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