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Old 04-29-2014, 10:12 PM   #11
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I wouldn't transfer the beer out of the keg back into a carboy???

Maybe letting it condition at room temp for a week then chilling and carbonating.

BIAB will produce cloudier wort, but given time the beer will be nice and clear.

I also think these beers are very young, and need more time.

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Old 04-30-2014, 12:10 AM   #13
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Actually, not even much time: I just racked the keg back into a carboy and before I did I took a few oz's of beer directly off the top of the keg once it was open. It was almost clear and no corn taste at all. The bottom of the keg had almost an inch of trub.

I think what happened is this: its been a very long time since I've had anything but hops and yeast suspended in my beer. BIAB adds lots of grain sediment to the mix, more even than traditional all grain methods. I am used to tasting green beer and ignoring the taste of the yeast, but the taste of the suspended grain threw me off.

Lesson learned: you don't want to keg BIAB beer as early as you can beer made with extract. I'll see how long it takes it to clear. If too long for me, I'll switch to an AG methodology.

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Old 04-30-2014, 12:21 AM   #14
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Is it me or are you doing everything that people recommend you do not do? You've been brewing a long time, regardless of ABV, 4 days isn't long enough for yeast to do what they do best. Racking to a keg then from seems like a bad idea too. I'm unsure, but your list of beers on untappd don't tell me how fast you turn them around. If you think BIAB is causing off flavors due to trub then most certainly switch methods. I guess if you feel your 4-day beers are great using all grain or extract then you could be on to something.

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Old 04-30-2014, 12:41 AM   #15
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I'd love to have left the first beer to clear more in the keg (the air contact made me cringe) but as I guessed there was already a ton of trub and the beer isn't even clear. If it didn't clog the tube when dispensing the beer, it would have ended up in every glass.

@hello 6 days, not 4! Come by next time you're in Chicago and if I've straightened out this change in brew style by then, I'll share a pretty nice (IMHO) 3.5 week old beer with you!

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Old 04-30-2014, 01:44 AM   #16
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+1 on Relax And Have A Homebrew, because I am slothful, I let my beers ride a month in the primary, dry hop, flavor as required, keg, force carb and drink - say 4-5 weeks grain to glass. The beers are crystal clear (okay except for that dunkelweisse where I over pitched) and life is good.

I understand your doing 10-gallon batches, but perhaps make some 5 gallon batches and build out your pipeline - I say that like we all have, i.e, with two little one under three I appreciate the need for speed. However the beers you selected are longer brewing beers. I noted from your Untapped that you are more focused on the session brews (which I can very much identify with), but these two brews seem to be a bit heavier and May well benefit from some additional time in the keg conditioning.

Case in point, I am enjoying a hazelnut porter (Jamie's Morebeer kit) that I was too lazy to measure out the hazelnut essence and used the whole bottle for the 5 gallon batch. It is only now hitting its stride (i.e., drinkable 15 months later). So happy I didn't dump it, as it is quite tasty and my aforementioned dunkelweisse has a bit of the yeast bite.

In sum, I believe BIAB will serve you well, but I believe you will need to incorporate a longer fermentation schedule and a bit longer (say a week) in the keg conditioning - say 4-5 weeks grain to glass.


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Old 04-30-2014, 02:30 AM   #17
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I've found that 90%+ of my brews could be grain to glass in 14-17 days, although due to a decent pipeline a freshly filled keg will often sit in my basement anywhere from a couple of weeks to several months before it makes it to a tap. With proper pitch rates and ferm temp control, there's really no need to leave the beer on the yeast more than 14 days. My rule is to cold crash 3 days after the krausen drops and keg at 12-14 days. Add another 2 days to get some decent carbonation and it's a done deal.

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