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Old 12-12-2012, 12:47 AM   #11
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OK so the Rice is cooked and ready to be combined with the Kome-Koji and Water. I use 1 gallon glass pickle Jars for the fermentor. I make sure to clean them super well lid and all by soaking in Oxy-Clean Free for 24 hours. So to recap we have multiplied .06666 or 6.666% to each of the 3 main ingredients weight in grams to get:

Rice = 78.99g (Dry weight)
Kome-Koji = 38.93g (Weight after taken from incubator)
Water = 129.05g

For the Moto / starter I also added 1/8 tsp of DAP.

Mix all these together really well by mixing the Rice and cold Fiji Water first. This makes sure to cool down the rice bellow 113*F. Add in the Kome-Koji and yeast nutrient & mix really well some more.

At this point no yeast will be added. We want the Kome-Koji to work it's magic and start to convert the starches to sugar. It is ok to screw the lid on tight at this point.

We will let this sit at room temp for 48 hours stirring twice daily. You will notice within 12 hours that the rice will soak up most of the water. 24 hours from the start the Rice will start to liquefy & after 48 hours it will be soupy again. Check out the following pic as I just mixed the stuff. Lets see how this goes over the next couple days then we will work on getting the yeast added.

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OK so about 48 hours has past. I have been stirring morning and night these last two days so that the rice is evenly in contact with the enzymes from the Kome-Koji.

Here is a pic at about 10 hours after the last pic:

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Just about all the liquid is soaked up and the rice is very fluffy with sweet cheesy smells coming from the jar.

Here is a pic about 22 hours in:

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Now we can see the starches just starting to liquefy again. The smell now is much cheesier than it was before. At this stage you want to start trying to smell for sour smells. If you do get sour smells you may have a bacterial infection creating too much lactic acid in the mash. There are ways to deal with that but I would rather start over since we are not far in and not wasting much of the rice.

I was in a hurry and so missed taking pics the following morning but here are a couple pics of this evening at about 40 - 42 hours in:

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Now this is getting really soft and mushy. There are small pools of pure liquid glucose & sucrose. Still no sour smell on mine so things are looking great.

Now traditional Sake only uses a couple different types of yeast. At the 48 hour mark we add in the yeast to the mix. The best yeast to use for traditional Sake is Wyeast Sake #9 from their smack pack. This yeast is a Lager type yeast that lends a smooth flavor and accentuates the oddly fruity character of fermented rice.

I wanted to try something different this go around to see how it comes out. One of my favorite Mead yeasts is Lalvin K1-V1116. That stuff works well in low or high temps, is great for low nutrient ferments, is a steady & moderate speed yeast that preserves aromas and protects delicate flavors. I started by making a 1/3 cup starter for the yeast so it mimicked about the same volume from a wyeast smack pack. I mixed in just under 1 tsp of local wild flower honey and 1/16 tsp of yeast energizer into the 1/3 cup water. The water used was the Fiji water used for the rice additions. I sprinkled the dried yeast pack on top of the liquid and let sit with a paper towel over it until that 48 hour mark came. The starter was super active with high krausen so I pitched it in at the 48 hour nark and this is what I got:

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I also took 3 "Viva" paper towels which are kind of fabric like and added that to the top of the jar under the lid. The lid is tightened but not super tight. That will allow for CO2 to escape from the jar. A piece of cotton cloth works well too.

Now this is really important. The additional liquid will make for a better environment for a Lacto Bacteria colony to grow. In Sake you always expect a little bit of Lacto bacteria because you want a little lactic cid to offset the super sweet fermented rice liquid. But too much makes for awful Sake. So we now want to slow down the bacteria while the yeast colony goes through its lag phase. You do this by cooling the wort/must to about 60*F - 50*F. I put the Jar outside in the shade on my porch. It was about 60*F outside then and over the span of the 12 hours it will hit somewhere at 50*F or slightly under. So the weather is perfect for me right now. After the 12 hour cool rest we bring the Jar inside and it will stay at room temp as close to 70*F as possible for 3 days stirring twice daily and then another 3 days stirring once daily. After that we will cool the wort/must back down to the 60*F - 50*F range and let it rest for 5 days. Finally the Moto/starter step will be complete and the Moromi step can take effect.

I will update more once we get there in about 11 days.


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I'm probably just being dumb. But what do you mean by "wrap the lid from bottom up"?
You put the towel under the pan lid, and then secure any drooping towel corners upward, to keep them away from a heat source and starting a fire. I literally use a rubberband to hold the corners together-on top of the lid- creating a new handle.

And Halburst--there is no such thing as a dumb question.
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Saramc, thanks for the answer. Makes total sense now.
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OK we are 4 days into the Moto. Just a quick update, most of the rice past day two is liquefied with only a scattered amount of broken pieces floating about. On day 2 - 3 you will notice a heavy boozy smell and late day 3 the liquid starts separating with alcohol on top with the broken rice floating and the liquefied solids settling to the bottom. Here late day 4 I know things are going well because when smelling if you try real hard to look past the strong alcohol smell there are faint smells of what I can only describe as sweet vanilla. Who knew that fermented rice would have such complex and wonderful smells?

I must say I am so far pleased with using the Lalvin 1116 instead of the Sake #9. Everything is on schedule and in two days the warm portion of the Moto will be finished. There will be a 5 day resting period at 50*F - 60*F and then we can start main fermentation Moromi!
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OK I am about a day too early to start Moromi but we have a crazy winter storm coming in and it will be way too cold for the starter so I will be starting the warm portion of Mormi a little sooner. Tonight I am bringing the starter back inside and warming to about 70*F. Moromi will be doubling the Rice & koji additions over the next 5 days in 3 steps. Before adding Rice additions you want to add in your Koji additions 24 hours befor the Rice and Water additions to allow for the Amalyse enzyme to get ready. This is especially important if using Frozen or dried Koji. Tonight I multiplied the previously stated 13.332% or .13332 to the total weight of my Koji giving me about 78g. I added that to the now pure liquid starter and mixed in well to introduce some oxygen. We will let this sit for 24 hours and tommorow day 1 add in the first addition of Rice and Water. Day 2 will add more Koji. Day 3 add more Rice & Water. Day 4 Add in more Koji and day 5 add in the last of the Rice and Water. Day 6 we cool the must back down to around 50*F and keep it there for another 2 - 3 weeks for fermentation to complete. We will filter and clear after that. I will take pics after the main Rice additions and keep you all up to date.
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I hope everyone has had great holidays so far. Oh! and happy end of the world..... We survived!!! I have been busy busy and have had no time to post pics but I have at least kept on track with the steps of the Sake making and have pics of the progress.

Here I have a couple pics of day 1 as outlined before when I added the first rice/water addition 24 hours after the first Kome-Koji addition. I want to say that I am adding the water when I add the rice and not the kome-koji but if you are using dried pre-packaged kome-koji then make sure you add the water with the kome-koji to help get the enzymes going but since my koji is fresh I add the water later. When you add the Rice and water make sure to stir this up well and introduce plenty of oxygen into the must/wort.

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Fermentation has really picked up here now. You should see bubbles rising up in the must/wort. The smell is really alcoholic with that sweet cheesy nutty smell from the fresh Kome-koji. Unlike with the Moto when we added the rice it pretty much soaked up all the liquid and became solid the next day. Going into the morning of day two you will notice the solids expanded but this will be very soupy still.

Here are pics of day 3 with the second addition of water and rice. Fermentation is getting violent now. Popping bubbles and when you stir in the rice you can hear the liquid degassing. As explained on page one we are doubling volume each time we add the ingrediants. This is no different then step feeding honey or sugar to mead/wines to push the yeast to their max.

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Check out the Fly strip in the back. I think I got some apples the other day with fruit fly eggs on them because now I have fruit flys all around my brews. God I hate fruit flies lol.

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Oh no! I spilled some rice!!! Don't worry about this rice and make sure to throw it away. We do not want spilled rice in our Sake because you may get some unwanted bacteria which is a hard thing to stop with sake. So if you spill a small amount of rice then just throw it away and if you must then rinse, soak, steam & cool new rice.
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I have been a bad thread host recently so I hope everyone can forgive. I have the last addition of rice Rinsed/washed/steamed and in the Jar. I topped off the jar with water leaving a little head space because the rice will expand a bit over night.

The Sake is now in full Moromi stage and is dancing like crazy in the jar. I have moved the Jar back outside on th walled in porch. I added a small heater out there so it should not get to below 50*F yet no hotter than 55*F. It will sit hear and slowly ferment over the next 3 weeks. Again I want to stress it is important that we have a cold slow ferment because Lactobacillus bacteria can easily ruin Sake. Also there are some byproducts from the aspergillus mold "Kome-Koji" that can cause sour/off flavors in warmer temps if left too long. So slow and cold is the way to go. Lets re-cap the whole process so I have a condensed step by step on one page:

Day one: Making Kome-Koji
Ingredients:
1 1/3 Cups short grain rice
1 1/2 tsp Koji Spores
1/2 tsp Bleached Flour
Rinse the Rice in strainer until water runs clear. Soak rice until Rice has expanded by 33% of it's original volume. Steam Rice for 30 - 45 minutes untill rice turns semi translucent and not pure white.
Cool Rice to room temp on a cold metal pan.
Mix Koji, Flour and then sprinkle evenly across the surface of rice. Mix well with hands.
Place Rice/Koji mixture in incubator that stays humid to 80% - 85% humidity and at 95*F.
10 -12 hours later mix the Rice

Day Two: Continuing to incubate Kome-Koji
10 - 12 hours after last mixing mix the ricce more and un-clump the now stuck together Rice.
10 - 12 hours later Mix Again.

Day Three: Continuing to incubate Kome-Koji & Start Sake Making (Moto)
10 - 12 hours after last mixing mix the Rice again and then seal in air tight Bag. Measure weight in Grams.
Multiply Weight in grams to .6666 & .13332 & .26664 & .53328. Each weight figure is equal to the 4 separate Kome-Koji addition steps so you can separate the amounts now or write down the figures and measure out at each addition.
Place Kome Koji in coldest part of fridge.

Sake ingredients:
1 1/3 cups Kome-koji dry weight or home made Kome-Koji as above
5 cups short grain Rice
8 cups Spring water or filtered Tap (Absolutely no RO water or Distilled Water)
1/8tsp DAP
Yeast Lalvin K1-V1116
Weigh out the Rice and Water and Multiply to the figures like we did with the wet Kome-Koji. Separate the amounts or write down to be measured out in future steps.
Rinse/Soak/Steam first addition of Rice as we did with the Kome-koji Rice.
Mix the First step of the Rice/Kome-Koji/Water/DAP all together and aerate a lot.
Let Sit at Room Temp for 48 hours.

Day Four: Motto (Starter step)
Mix twice today

Day Five: Motto (Starter step)
Mix very Well in the morning
After 48 hours prepare Yeast with 1/3 cup water, 1tsp honey or sugar, 1/16tsp yeast energizer for 1 - 2 hours.
Mix Yeast starter and the now liquefied Rice Mash & place under airlock
Cool the Moto down to 50*F - 60*F for 12 hours

Day Six: Moto (Starter step)
After 12 hour cool rest bring the Moto back to room temp as close to 70*F as possible & Let Rest Stirring Twice daily.

Day Seven: Moto (Starter step)
Stir Twice today morning and night

Day eight: Moto (Starter step)
Stir Twice today morning and night

Day nine: Moto (Starter step)
Stir once today morning or night

Day Ten: Moto (Starter step)
Stir once today morning or night

Day eleven: Moto (Starter step)
Stir once today morning or night

Day Twelve: Moromi (Main Fermentation)
Bring the must back to 70*F.
Add your 2nd figure of Kome-Koji to the must mixing well & then wait.

Day Thirteen: Moromi (Main Fermentation)
Prepare Rice as done before.
Add your 2nd figure of Rice and water to the must mixing well & then wait.

Day Fourteen: Moromi (Main Fermentation)
Add your 3rd figure of Kome-Koji to the must mixing well & then wait.

Day Fifteen: Moromi (Main Fermentation)
Prepare Rice as done before.
Add your 3rd figure of Rice and water to the must mixing well & then wait.

Day Sixteen: Moromi (Main Fermentation)
Add your 4th figure of Kome-Koji to the must mixing well & then wait.

Day Seventeen: Moromi (Main Fermentation)
Prepare Rice as done before.
Add your 4th figure of Rice and water to the must mixing well & then You want to cool the must down to as close to 50*F as possible. From here forward keep cold between 50*F - 55*F for the next 3 weeks.

Day Thirty-eight: Straining and clearing
Run the finished Sake through a cheese cloth to remove solids.
Add Bentonite and allow to clear.
Bottle and pasteurize after clear.
Pasteurize by bringing a pot of water up to 190*F and remove heat. Add bottles to hot water for 10 minutes. Allow to slowly cool.

That is it!... I think I got it all down. I am enjoying some newly bottled skeeter pee right now and hope I have not missed anything.

We will check out my finished product when fermentation is done and I go to clear it.
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OK the day has come!

Now I have already strained and tucked away the finished sake for clearing. Here is how it went:

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Here we see what the Sake looks like when it is done. You will have a semi clear liquid floating on top of all the fermented rice. I could not help myself but I dipped a clean shot glass into the clearer liquid to get a sip of the brew to see if I kept it cool enough to fight off the sour and evil lactobacillus microbes.

OHHH MYYY!!!! There was a rush of floral rice character at first. Sake yeast gives hints of pear like esters but the Lalvin 1116 when fermented cool gives more floral esters and it shows. There was a hint of sour but not lacto sour but more like just tasting the yeast. then a very clean and crisp finish on the palate that ended cool but hot from alcohol. Wow this stuff has to be in the 20% ABV range.

Now I took a second wide mouth gallon bucket and cleaned it super well with a solution of camden tablet and some water. I also sterilized a cotton bag I use for straining. In the Sake and mush went into the bag. Make sure to take a sanitized spoon and get all you can that may be sticking to your original jar. I closed up and started to slowly squeeze the cotton bag and let the cloudy liquid pour out. as more and more liquid runs out I start to turn and twist the bag to add pressure to the rice lees. After about 10 minutes I have a hard lump in the bag and I have squeezed out 2.5 liters of liquid.

Here are some pics of what was left over in the bag:

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The stuff is like a dry cottage cheese. Looks nothing like rice any more. I am throwing this stuff in the fridge for now. There are lots of Japanese dishes that can be prepared from this stuff but I am going to attempt use some of this to make my own version of Jiuqu. As mentioned in the first post Jiuqu is a type of Chinese yeast/mold brick used in Chinese rice wine. That will be a whole new adventure detailed somewhere else.

Now I cleaned out the original jar and added just under one crushed camden tablet and a bit less than 1/2 tsp of potassium sorbate.

(With this step I am cheating. Usually you add no chemicals and if you want to preserve the Sake you pasteurize it. But since I do this for wines and meads anyways I don't think it terrible to do.)






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