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Old 01-26-2013, 03:00 PM   #481
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I started a new batch today my last one was a failure lol. I think the reason was I did not soak the rice before I steamed it.

This time I soaked 5 cups of Premium Sweet rice for about 8-9 hours steamed it and used 5 yeast balls.

I will let you know how it turns out!

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Old 01-26-2013, 04:31 PM   #482
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Finally getting going on this, and started my rice soaking. The sweet rice the Chinese lady sold me for this is the most polished and shortest grain rice I've ever seen. There are no grooves or traces of where the germ was, an they are almost totally round. I'll post back in 3 weeks.

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Old 01-26-2013, 10:42 PM   #483
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I'm about 1 week now into the fermentation and both batches are a gelatinous mess... they are both very liquidy as well. I take them and swirl the contents around... has anyone experienced this where the liquid does not separate?
So I guess the gelatinous mess I have is a common thing and to be expected in brewing this sake?

I do not have any separation of liquid as of yet like I have seen some others have.

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Old 01-26-2013, 10:44 PM   #484
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So I guess the gelatinous mess I have is a common thing and to be expected in brewing this sake?

I do not have any separation of liquid as of yet like I have seen some others have.

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What rice did you use? It seems people using the "sweet rice"es have something similar to what you have. I have only ever used thai jasmine so can't speak knowledgeably to any others.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:16 AM   #485
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What rice did you use? It seems people using the "sweet rice"es have something similar to what you have. I have only ever used thai jasmine so can't speak knowledgeably to any others.
Hey Sonofgrok,

I used Thai Jasmine rice...GAO THOM SO1 (whatever that means)
Straight from the oriental market.

So if this is normal, I am probably OK.
I cannot believe how much liquid is in there. The rice went in pretty dry...its like white sloppy mud in there now... =)

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Old 01-27-2013, 04:28 AM   #486
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Here's what I got out of mine harvesting from a 1 quart jar on day 26. Minus about 1/2 an ounce from tasting just before I took the picture. I was really astonished at how much of the rice had liquefied. The measuring cup has the remaining solids in it. It is a 1/2 cup measuring cup.

I stuck the starch mass in a dish towel I use for making cheese on a regular basis. I found that I was able to get much more liquid out of the starch mass by first squeezing, then releasing the pressure and breaking up the mass with my fingers. Then squeezing again.

The taste is fruity, with a slight acidic twang. Not unpleasantly acidic, definitely enough to let you know it's there though. The aroma reminds me of bread. There is a slightly bready aftertaste too.

Lots of alcohol. I would suspect this to be around the 20% mark as speculated by others. It isn't a hot flavor though. Really it's very mild and smooth for the power in it.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with this batch. I hope the big one comes out as well.

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From: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/firs...e-help-356978/


>>YOU WANT THE RICE TO FERMENT AT APPROX 90 F.
>>FERMENTATION SHOULD ONLY TAKE ABOUT 7 DAYS.

What do you guys think of this? 7 days???

This is my brew after 9 days, in how 80's and 90's degree climate. Am hoping it would clarify the liquid but doesnt look like it's gonna happen

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>>YOU WANT THE RICE TO FERMENT AT APPROX 90 F.
>>FERMENTATION SHOULD ONLY TAKE ABOUT 7 DAYS.

What do you guys think of this? 7 days???

This is my brew after 9 days, in how 80's and 90's degree climate. Am hoping it would clarify the liquid but doesnt look like it's gonna happen
It is common knowledge that the warmer the temp, typically the faster the ferment. All yeast have an ideal temp range, and most of us that have been making this follow the advice of the people we buy the yeast from. So far, the answer I get from every sales person and customer I have spoken with as I hunt for yeast balls is: "the cooler the better and harvest your wine in 3-4 weeks, use your taste buds to tell you when...but no more than one month". Not to mention the online research of articles, blogs, etc.
If that is the temp you have to work with, or choose to work with....please let us know how that works out for you. I would expect a short ferment would definitely impact the clarity simply because the enzymes have such a short time to do their thing, but if it tastes good--does it matter?
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well day 26 and i have just harvested my second batch, 1.5 liters of 20% alcohol for a few pounds(£..lol) is well worth it.

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The sweet rice definitely cooks up into a big rubbery gelatinous mass. I'm not sure this is the best rice to use for this, but we will see. It has an absolutely amazing aroma though, much more aromatics than jasmine or any rice short of Basmati. I am thinking a 50/50 blend of Jasmine/Sweet next time.

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