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Old 06-02-2012, 05:14 PM   #21
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Huh. Good to know about the BSP to NPT. I will give it a shot. Is Brewers Hardware the best source for NPTxTri Flange?

Kladue- thanks for the pointer on the burners... It's a shame because those jet burners look so damn cool when they are all fired up! I suppose it's best to do what is proven to work though. As far as ordering the VR8200 gas valves, what do they come with and what will I still need to purchase? Do they come with the pilot compression fitting and tubing? I assume they do not come with the pilot burner? What about the thermocouple or whatever it is they use to verify the pilot is lit?

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Old 06-02-2012, 05:17 PM   #22
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Oh... Ok, just saw your post Kladue... That is what I am thinking too... I have had a lot of bad experiences with stainless gauling.. the last thing I want to do is ruin my valve body at $80 a pop... I found these guys:

http://www.mfgaa.com/triclamps.html

Looks like they can do it, its just a matter of cost. I'm going to inquire about it.

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Old 06-02-2012, 05:19 PM   #23
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Do a quick google search on 1/2" NPT versus BSP. While the pitch is different, they are both 14 TPI and often used together in low pressure applications.

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Old 06-02-2012, 05:23 PM   #24
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Hmmm... if the pitch is the same... I guess it could work... I'm going to get a price on the correct (BSP to Sanitary fitting). If it is around the same, I will most likely do that. If it is much more, I will try the NPT right into the BSP.

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Old 06-02-2012, 05:48 PM   #25
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The gas diagram looks right, but I would strongly advise against using jet burners, use the 10" banjo burners and save the grief of trying to make the jet burners work. Buy 10" (BG-14)for HLT and BK, and a 6" (BG-12) for the mash tun, and source the low pressure jets from One Hoppy Guy. This has proven to be the best setup for low pressure propane around, jet burners have not worked all that well because of the design and construction flaws, and most have gone on to the banjo burners.
Wait, so source the low pressure jets meaning the entire burner from One Hoppy Guy? Does he sell these or something? Also, are there both low pressure and high pressure BG-14/BG-12? I want to make sure I don't order the wrong thing.
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Sorry but the BSP and NPT threads do not play well together, here is a link http://pipeandhose.com/node/2.

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For the burners look here http://www.agrisupply.com/cooking-su...ies/c/5400000/, for the conversion to low pressure gas jets check with these folks http://brewsteel.com/, and finally the gas valves can be sourced from PEX supply, a VR 8200 valve http://www.pexsupply.com/Honeywell-V...lve-11588000-p, Q314 pilot http://www.pexsupply.com/Honeywell-Q...rner-4113000-p, and thermocouple http://www.pexsupply.com/Honeywell-Q...uple-1721000-p. To power the valves you will need a 120/24VAC transformer like this http://www.pexsupply.com/Honeywell-A...5VA-11016000-p. To connect the pilot burner to the valve, 1/4" soft copper from the big box building supply house or from hardware stores will work.

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WOW. Thanks a lot for all of the links. Very helpful.

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Wait, so source the low pressure jets meaning the entire burner from One Hoppy Guy? Does he sell these or something? Also, are there both low pressure and high pressure BG-14/BG-12? I want to make sure I don't order the wrong thing.
You will need to drill them out to .073” / #49 for low pressure. We don't sell burners.

+1 on PexSupply, we buy all our gas components from them
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The burner castings work with either high or low pressure, the difference is in the brass gas jet fitting. Brewers supply is a source for the BG-14 low pressure jets http://www.brewershardware.com/Valve...or-BURN10.html, the BG-12 is a DIY with #45 drill bit, or sourced from Bayou Classic http://bayouclassicdepot.com/615-con...ss-fitting.htm. To feed the gas valves a marshal 290 series 2 stage regulator and Green tank adapter http://www.americanrvcompany.com/Cam...RV_p_5893.html will work nicely

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