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OatStraw · 10-08-2012, 07:52 PM

I see a few advertisments (online) for Brew Pubs (On premise brewing and serving) in the Oklahoma City area, but can't find much information on the laws around this. How difficult is it to open a Brew Pub in Oklahoma and is there any possibility to also distribute out of one?

**GilaMinumBeer** · 10-08-2012, 07:54 PM

ABLE Title 37, iirc, are the brewing laws.

No self distribution permitted.

OatStraw · 10-08-2012, 09:27 PM

yeah, so get a lawyer?

Title 37 is prevention of youth access. I've read the ABLE stuff, but I must be too simple minded because it's not extremely clear.

GarageDweller · 10-12-2012, 07:33 PM

If it is stronger than 3.2 you can't sell on premises, unless the stronger beers are sold to a distributor and then resold back to said brew pub. Just read an article on Spring Loaded Brewery which has been jumping through hoops trying to open in Sand Springs, Ok for the past 5 years, or so. Gotta get some laws changed!

OatStraw · 10-17-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GarageDweller

If it is stronger than 3.2 you can't sell on premises, unless the stronger beers are sold to a distributor and then resold back to said brew pub. Just read an article on Spring Loaded Brewery which has been jumping through hoops trying to open in Sand Springs, Ok for the past 5 years, or so. Gotta get some laws changed!

Yeah I had heard about this clause. It's pretty ridiculous. What's preventing the brewer for selling to the distributor for $1 then buying it back for $1?

Looks like just going the traditional brewery route will be a lot more logical here in Oklahoma as a third party Distributor would be required either way.

GarageDweller · 10-18-2012, 04:35 PM

I was thinking along the lines of, start a brew pub and a distribution company at the same time, under a different name and self-deliver that $hite to yourself. I think the law isn't really meant to stop any company from selling their own brews, but more-so to funnel some (more) money into the distribution companies, which are owned by the BMC's. Someone with deep pockets is keeping the people of this state from even having a chance to vote on any of our draconian liquor laws. The whole 3.2 beer thing is completely asinine. Citizens in this state aren't able to chose what products they consume.? We need legislators and beurocrats to decide for us?! Then our representatives talk about being conservative and keeping government out of regular folks business.
sorry for the rant.

OatStraw · 10-18-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GarageDweller

I was thinking along the lines of, start a brew pub and a distribution company at the same time, under a different name and self-deliver that $hite to yourself. I think the law isn't really meant to stop any company from selling their own brews, but more-so to funnel some (more) money into the distribution companies, which are owned by the BMC's. Someone with deep pockets is keeping the people of this state from even having a chance to vote on any of our draconian liquor laws. The whole 3.2 beer thing is completely asinine. Citizens in this state aren't able to chose what products they consume.? We need legislators and beurocrats to decide for us?! Then our representatives talk about being conservative and keeping government out of regular folks business.
sorry for the rant.

I think you are spot on. I am a conservative myself and this still drives me NUTS! On your point of opening two business I believe you would be walking a fine line, but it "could" be possible if they are both operated as a corporation then they would be a separate entity.

I think if I pursue anything it would be a brewery first brewpub 2nd if there is enough interest. The restaurant business is not something I have a large passion for, or would know how to get started (I don't know how to get a brewery started either, but there is a passion.)