Ss Brewing Technologies Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Community > Brewing Events & Local Gatherings > North East USA > Massachusetts HomeBrew Forum > One Entrepreneur Wanted.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-01-2012, 09:10 PM   #51
neophilus
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Methuen, Massachusetts
Posts: 73
Liked 14 Times on 11 Posts

Default

The selling will be the hardest part. You might want to find someone with industry and marketing experience. Brewing great beer is one thing, getting bars and stores to sell it is another.

You also might want to reconsider the "stepping on anyone who thinks differently" approach, I'm sure it works for most industries but from what I've read craft brewers are a friendly, tight-knit lot and you could run into the situation where you need the help from another brewer.

__________________
neophilus is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2012, 09:19 PM   #52
Groove_Rock
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Boston, Ma
Posts: 38
Likes Given: 1

Default

come on

Theres beers to be had.

Brewing is not the hard part, I said before there are plenty of good homebrew recipes out there. So the production aspect is not what Im worried about.

Selling maybe. But as a small local brewery, you can bet that that word goes a long way. Local. I dont know how it is in IL but here in the northeast, if it isnt local and fresh it isnt worth my money.

Ive spoken with plenty of restaurants, bars, and pubs locally and they said they would carry my product (if it was good) just based on my location and business card alone.

Its a long process to get to even half the status Jom Koch brought his company to, but I am a hard worker and Im not afraid of slow and steady.

__________________
Groove_Rock is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2012, 09:27 PM   #53
Groove_Rock
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Boston, Ma
Posts: 38
Likes Given: 1

Default

neo - yes, I have great relationships with commercial brewers and supply companies right now. I understand fully the concept of doing business with those in my local community...I am a wonderful cheerful person in person which is why I have been successful in this venture so far. But if Derek from Newport Storm was to randomly one day say to me "your brewery is going to fail" I think I would have to say F U to him, and keep on truckin'.

Selling will be the hardest part, yes. But again, Local goes a long way around here...especially methuen, im about 10 minutes from you. haha

__________________
Groove_Rock is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2012, 09:55 PM   #54
barneygumble
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Pittsfield, MA
Posts: 547
Liked 18 Times on 16 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

I just wanted to say that if I lived close enough, I prolly would have stopped by the brewery to say hi.

I dont know how far you are into brewing from your location, but my recommendation is that if you are licensed and have at least a 1 bbl set up and can brew today, brew a crowd pleaser extra pale ale, name and label it, and get it on tap in one location. Kick it off with hats n tees. Drop a note to the Lowell Sun editors that a new nanobrewery is going on tap... local new business, yadayada....maybe they would send a photographer and make a short column of it. All free advertisement.

Even if your brewery is limited in scale, getting one flagship beer out, using and refining the same recipe, and getting into a brewing cycle will be of huge benefit to you. It will work all the bugs out of your equipment and process, so you can professionally produce and replicate the one recipe flawlessly. It will also get you into a brewing schedule to meet a limited demand. It will open and dictate a supply flow of grains, hops and yeast. It will let you establish a plan for yeast harvest. And it will put your name out locally as a producer. If you have the ability, the next step is to open one tap at a second local location. Same beer. You will be sales, marketing, bookkeeper, buyer, distributor, and brewer. Then it will be easier to find a partner.

__________________
barneygumble is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2012, 10:20 PM   #55
sfrisby
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 12 reviews
 
sfrisby's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,662
Liked 234 Times on 160 Posts

Default

If there is one thing I believe without ever meeting you, and never will, is you are 24.

1) You say you want a partner, not an employee. I believe in your original post you said you need help doing what can't be done by one person. That sounds like an employee.

2) you have the money, the liscenses, the equipment, and the recipes. As a previous poster said, why does your partner need to be a homebrewer? Clearly you aren't looking for those skill sets. Why not different skill sets that YOU DONT poccess? I believe you said your degree is in restaurant Mngt? What about someone in advertising, marketing, ect.... You will NEED that expertise to succeed.

3) consider what an earlier poster said about not a 50-50 partner because someone needs to be in charge. If your attitude on here is any indication, you will run off any equal partner.

Good luck.

__________________
sfrisby is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2012, 10:35 PM   #56
Groove_Rock
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Boston, Ma
Posts: 38
Likes Given: 1

Default

Look I'm not here to defend myself anymore, Ive been clear on what I'm looking for when you start your brewery you can hire whoever you want. You don't know anything about my business and only the people who have PMed me an fully understand the situation

Find another thread for your 2 cents, I know you think you're being helpful and I appreciate it...but like I said in my 400 previous posts I'm looking for a partner and if you're. It interested in my business then please post elsewhere



Barney - all good ideas thanks, I haven't spoken to the sun yet but I have spoken to Lowell officials to set up a booth downtown at the annual folk festival as my kind of kick off and they are giving me a hard time but I think it will go through

Ive considered all that but i actually just wrote down all those suggestions haha just in case I forgot so thanks again!

__________________
Groove_Rock is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2012, 11:40 PM   #57
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Upper Michigan
Posts: 61,018
Liked 4451 Times on 3240 Posts
Likes Given: 866

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Groove_Rock View Post

1) i dont want to be part of your internet club because there is only a handful of people on here who are decent people not looking for a fake fight with someone theyll never meet - i can assure you that none of these things would be said to my face - hide behind your ****ty avatar picture

........

7) i am looking for help from people who are interested in being an entrepreneur. people with enough ballsack to leave the jobs that are making them miserable, miserable because they see a 24 year old making the kind of moves they will never have the balls to make, when they are sitting at their computer stealing recipes from other forums and posting them as their own....reading threads on the troubleshooting forum because they cant figure out why the beer they fermented in the 5 gallon glass primary for over a month tastes like ass.....Ive heard of wine on the lee's...ha!


Ive invested a good amount of my life reading every book and magazine I can find on beer and chemistry. ......

If you have no desire to be a business man, as well as a brewer you have no business here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groove_Rock View Post



The only reason I came onto this forum was to find someone who wanted to take their hobby to the next level. Like me. Im not looking for people who have worked in the industry, just so they can tell me how to do things.
I have a strong personality and I burn plenty of bridges but I am not here to sell my business or products. Half of the things I have said have been out of complete entertainment for myself, and if you cant laugh at some of the things things said then I feel bad.

like I say to everyone else, read my first post - none of this should have even happened. I enjoy all the posts from massachusetts, none of them have been jerks.

I posted this in the Massachusetts forum.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groove_Rock View Post

My attitude is definitely not for everyone, Sorry if my "Im going to to anything to be successful, and step on anyone who thinks differently" approach turns you off. .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groove_Rock View Post
Find another thread for your 2 cents, I know you think you're being helpful and I appreciate it...but like I said in my 400 previous posts I'm looking for a partner and if you're. It interested in my business then please post elsewhere
Here's something to consider. Some of us are twice your age, with more than twice as much money as you and would be willing to consider this. But your attitude sucks. You come across as a snot-nosed kid with an attitude instead of someone I feel like giving 250K to.

There's some good advice here. If you ask for advice, you can't tell people to piss off just because you don't like their advice. If your whole reason for coming to this forum is to rub people the wrong way, alienate potential investors, and be thought of as a brat in general, you've succeeded.

I don't expect anyone to take abuse, but to come off as a know-it-all at the age of 24 without even having a job is a bit much to take for some of us older more experienced (and wealthier) people who just might have quite a bit of business acumen.

Being confident is a great attribute. Being abrasive and rude to potential help is probably not going to win you points with many of us.

You have read books. But many of us have actually make businesses work, sold them, got rich, and started new businesses. I'd suggest either ignoring posts you don't like, and stop being a douche to people offering some very helpful advice. Or you can permanently find a new forum in which to aggravate people. Telling others to "find a new thread to give your $.02 cents" is probably not going to be a good way for you to relate to us.
__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-02-2012, 12:10 AM   #58
Groove_Rock
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Boston, Ma
Posts: 38
Likes Given: 1

Default

Ok thanks for backtracking, all good stuff to consider

__________________
Groove_Rock is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-02-2012, 12:18 AM   #59
Groove_Rock
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Boston, Ma
Posts: 38
Likes Given: 1

Default

It's people like you who post things like this on purpose just to get a 24 year old kid upset. I see nothing posted from my first post

Everyone being rude was certainly not potential help.

Congratulations on being a successful business owner/seller/whatever

But please read the rest of posts, I'm not looking for an investor or some old man to give me 250k

Thanks again for your time, I hope this 24 year old kid from Massachusetts was a good punching bag for you

Congrats on your success again

__________________
Groove_Rock is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-02-2012, 12:22 AM   #60
Groove_Rock
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Boston, Ma
Posts: 38
Likes Given: 1

Default

How do I change the name of this thread?


Irrelevant Out of Stater Haters Welcome

__________________
Groove_Rock is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools