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Old 10-23-2012, 03:19 AM   #141
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w00t, third place! Out of 7....haha.

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Old 10-23-2012, 04:04 AM   #142
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w00t, third place! Out of 7....haha.
Congrats! I had 2 beers in sour ales and went home with nothing. My beers suffered from undercarbonation. I think they just needed more time in the bottle to fully condition or maybe I should've added some fresh saccharomyces to help the process
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:14 AM   #143
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:24 AM   #144
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Default HOPS BOPS Update!!!

Dennis Decker has been DISQUALIFIED!

We apologize for the delay in publicizing the winners. Immediately after winners were announced at the end of judging, an entrant's eligibility was found to be in question. The entrant was given the opportunity to explain the discrepancy between certain public statements and his amateur status. After reviewing the case, the Organizing Committee has come out from under the hood and has concluded that his beers were brewed with commercial intent. HOPS BOPS rules disqualify the entries from winning medals, though he has received his scoresheets.

The individual clearly is a talented brewer having won several of the tables. Placements in the affected tables were adjusted by shifting the non-disqualified beers the judges had placed forward, and then filling in the empty slots based on the judges' scoresheets. The Best Of Show round has been completely destroyed, since the disqualified beers would have been replaced by others. Since re-doing the Best Of Show round would be logistically challenging, the Committee has decided to forego the round all-together this year.

We understand that there are a variety of opinions on this matter. We discussed it at length amongst ourselves. The decisions of the Committee are final.

Thank you.
HOPS BOPS Organizing Committee

The renewed results can be found here http://www.hopsclub.org/HOPS-BOPS_2012/hopsbops12.html or just look below:

Table 1 - The Early Numbers (19 Entries)
Anthony DiPrimio, Independent Nutley, NJ Doppelbock 5C Doppelbock 1
Jason Wasnick, Bruclear Pottstown, PA Power to the People Pilsner 2B Bohemian Pilsner 2
Nathan Panek, Keystone Hops Ridley Park, PA Stammtisch Ale 6C Koelsch 3
Table 2 - Grainy Beers (6 Entries)
Nathan Panek, Keystone Hops Ridley Park, PA Malt and Spalt 7C Dusseldorf Altbier 1
Paul Haitkin, Independent Staten Island, NY Heatwave Lager 7B California Common Beer 2
Nathan Panek, Keystone Hops Ridley Park, PA Hefefartzen 15A Weizen 3
Table 3 - God Save the Queen (English Pale) (10 Entries)
Justin Moser, Bruclear Collegeville, PA Evy's Ale 8C Extra Special/Strong Bitter (EPA) 1
Paul Haitkin, Independent Staten Island, NY Paul's Extra 8C Extra Special/Strong Bitter (EPA) 2
Andrew Moore, Independent Reading, PA Oscar's Pub Ale 8A Ordinary Bitter 3
Table 4 - Presidential Beers (American Ales) (17 Entries)
Jeremy Landis, Independent Wernersville, PA Jeremy's Pale Ale 10A American Pale 1
Ken Buonocore, Independent Collegeville, PA All Hail Pale Ale 10A American Pale 2
Matt Schiller, BYOB Montrose, MN Touchdown Brown 10C American Brown 3
Table 5 - Dark Side of the Moon (12 Entries)
Brian Peck, Independent Norristown, PA Midday Mild 11A Mild 1
Alex Dolginko, Brooklyn Brewsers Brooklyn, NY Coal Country Porter 12A Brown Porter 2
Steven Landgren, Upstate New York Homebrewers Associaition Webster, NY Southern Sweetie 11B Southern English Brown 3
Steven Landgren, Upstate New York Homebrewers Associaition Webster, NY Coffee Ice Cream 12A Brown Porter 3
Table 6 - Stiff Upper Lip (13 Entries)
Brian Nasarenko, Independent Kennett Square, PA Soggy Bottom Brew 13C Oatmeal Stout 1
Michael Soo, HOPS Philadelphia, PA RIS 13F Russian Imperial Stout 2
Reggie Springer, West New York brewery Easton, PA Dark and Stormy Oatmeal Stout 13C Oatmeal Stout 3
Table 7 - Heavy Hammers (IPAs) (19 Entries)
Matt Schiller, BYOB Montrose, MN Who Brought the Weed? 14B American IPA 1
Matt West, ALEiens Philadelphia, PA Weschov's Sustenance 14A English IPA 2
Paul Smikovecus, INDEPENDANT Manahawkin, NJ Hop Soup 14C Imperial IPA 3
Table 8 - Happy They are not German (Belgian & French) (17 Entries)
Nathan Panek, Keystone Hops Ridley Park, PA Trois Levure Saison 16C Saison 1
Ed Coffey, Philadelphia Homebrew Club Philadelphia, PA Saison Ville de Poisson 16C Saison 2
Jason Wasnick, Bruclear Pottstown, PA Watergate Wit 16A Witbier 3
Table 9 - Pucker Up (7 Entries)
Joshua Sled, Independent South Burlington, VT Berlinner Weisse 17A Berliner Weisse 1
Jason Wasnick, Bruclear Pottstown, PA Red Dawn 17F Fruit Lambic 2
Jake Endres, Lincoln Homebrewers Waterford, VA Wild Ale 17C Flander Brown Ale/Oud Bruin 3
Table 10 - Sneaky Beers (Belgian Strong) (12 Entries)
Ken Buonocore, Independent Collegeville, PA Ironic Pyrite 18D Belgian Golden Strong Ale 1
Jason Breault, First State Brewers Wilmington, DE Abbey-gale Dubbel 18B Belgian Dubbel 2
Andrew Sidrane, New York City Homebrewers Guild Brooklyn, NY "Wheat, Rye or Brew" 18A Belgian Blond Ale 3
Table 11 - Limey Liquids (10 Entries)
Tyler Flynn, HOPS Ardmore, PA Old Ale 19A Old Ale 1
Gary Bruns, Shreveport Urban Diastatic Spargers Shreveport, LA Ode To Blarney 9D Irish Red Ale 2
Michael Soo, HOPS Philadelphia, PA Slightly Heavy 9E Strong Scotch Ale 3
Table 12 - Carmen Miranda Beers (11 Entries)
Joshua Sled, Independent South Burlington, VT Raspberry Berliner Weiße 20A Fruit Beer 1
Michael Soo, HOPS Philadelphia, PA Berliner Weisse Pfirsich 20A Fruit Beer 2
Bill Schools, ALEiens Homebrew Club Croydon, PA Linda`s WW 20A Fruit Beer 3
Table 13 - Beers Sam Likes (SHV) (22 Entries)
Monty Leach, Independent Allentown, PA Merry Mind Eraser 21B Christmas/Winter Specialty Spiced Beer 1
Rich Palmay, Barley Legal Meford, NJ Bee-yoo-tee-ful BasAle 21A Spice, Herb, Vegetable Beer 2
Tom Bastian, Bruclear Collegeville, PA Belgian Death Metal 21A Spice, Herb, Vegetable Beer 3
Table 14 - Woody Beer (14 Entries)
Kyle Kernozek, HOPS Philadelphia, PA IDCOS-B 22C Wood-Aged Beer 1
Tyler Flynn, HOPS Ardmore, PA Oak-Aged Imperial Brown 22C Wood-Aged Beer 2
Todd and Kissa Reckamp, M*A*S*H Philadelphia, PA None More Black 22C Wood-Aged Beer 3
Table 15 - More Beers Sam Likes (Sp) (16 Entries)

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Old 10-23-2012, 11:42 AM   #145
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I think score sheets are what matter and the ribbons are just a nice reward. Nice thing is that if you get a ribbon, you win a prize. Could be a tee-shirt, opener, or some beer!
I guess that's what I'm getting at. The score sheets that provide feedback are the reason I enter comps. not to win swag. To be honest, I've pretty much got all the brewery schwag I need at this point (and brewing supplies outside of consumables). I understand the argument both ways with what this guy has done, but I dont' think it's something to get this upset about. :shrug:
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:23 PM   #146
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Yea thats why I enter comps is for the score sheet, I like the feedback on both my beer/recipe as well as seeing if my palate is as well trained as some of the BJCP Judges.

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Holy crap...first at table 4!!!!....with a pale ale that scored a 30. They must have low balled the hell out of everybody.

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30 is a pretty good score. I heard some of the judges there were very disappointed with the quality of the pale ales and also the IPA's at a different table

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30 is a pretty good score. I heard some of the judges there were very disappointed with the quality of the pale ales and also the IPA's at a different table
I was really surprised because I didn't think my pale ale was anything special....I thought for sure someone had entered something better. It definitely needs more flavor hops. I'll take it.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:14 AM   #150
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This was a lower scoring competition. I haven't seen anybody post a score in the 40's yet. I have entered quite a few comps over the years and have noticed that some tend to just score lower than others. I have no idea how or why that happens. I scored a perfect 50 on an oatmeal stout at a comp one time and it scored a 25 a week later at a different comp. Both scores were from pretty experienced judges.

There is a small comp near me that is about the same size as this one and they tend to score in the same range. At that one all of the medals were in the low to mid 30s range last year. I took gold for my IPA at the hops bops with a score of 32. I am a pretty good judge of my beer and not cellar blind. I bet that beer scores 40+ in most other comps by me if I had any left to enter.

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