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Search Pico Brewery. I've heard people starting them up in garages/storage units. It just has to be a dedicated brew space that passes inspection. You have to obtain all licensing as well. Keep in mind, a brewing/distribution license is more than just a liquor license that allows you to sell. Here's one example. I understand we all always want to point out how illegal this type of stuff is and bring people back down to reality when they talk about opening brew pubs, but instead lets talk about what the dude needs to do to make things happen. From there it's up to him to decide rather it's worth the work or not. I know this thread in particular is a bit odd because he wanted advice yet would not give any details, but the attitude on the forum on the subject is anything but encouraging.
To the OP - I'm with the others on your need to speak with a lawyer, not your Father who owns a couple companies. If they're not alcohol related, he doesn't know what he's taking about. Also, this is a homebrewing commmunity, if you're looking for commercial advise (which you are looking a business regardless of scale) head over to Probrewer.com as well for some better advice on the industry ins and outs.
There are lots of questions to be answered and lots of work to be done, but it's not impossible to go go commercial regardless of intended scale.
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03-23-2011, 06:29 PM
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Are you suggesting that you are going to open up a microbrewery and then have a series of brewers (i.e. homebrewers) rotate through, using your equipment, ingredients, etc to brew their recipes that you would then package and sell to the public?
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Almost. Using their own stuff, if possible. Other than that, spot on. However, I want most profits going to the brewer, who did the work in the first place. I want it to be all about the homebrewer, the 5 gallon batches, etc. I want everyone to be able to experience homebrew, including those who don't do it, or know anyone who does. It will never industrialized. Also, to IrregularPulse, my Father does not own anything, he works for the USDA and works with entrapenuers and small companies, granting and denying government grants and loans. He does know what it takes to get a company up and running. But yes, he doesn't know anything about alcohol, he's never encountered that before, so you are right, advising a lawyer would be benificial.
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03-23-2011, 06:31 PM
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thats why i was saying he would have to be flexible in his goals. yes. he doesn't have it all worked out. but if we can help point out whats wrong and possible solutions, then he'll have more ideas for when he does actually go to an attorney. if its what you really want to do then don't let any one stop you. be persistent! make it happen!
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Thank you! This is exactly why I am posting this entire thread!
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03-23-2011, 06:48 PM
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Thank you! This is exactly why I am posting this entire thread!
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Or five of them.
Seriously, I would like to do this, but I don't think it's going to happen.
Get all the legal authorities on board and then come back to us with this.
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03-23-2011, 07:01 PM
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Look up alternating proprietorship. However, everyone still needs to be licensed but can brew on the same equipment. Sale in the brewery would be covered under a different license since you'd have to be a retailer.
I'm curious as to which license you are holding.
Under your proposed arrangement.
If everyone "works" for you then you better have great insurance or the first guy to open a valve on the HLT will be the new owner of the brewery.
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03-23-2011, 07:07 PM
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i like your name cuz it looks like a jeep. also good point about having a lot if insurance issues.
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I'm getting ingredients in the mail today, and I can't even taste my beer yet. What should I do?
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I would make a yeast starter, and pitch it into your mailbox.
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03-23-2011, 07:32 PM
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HLT? Tell me a bit more.
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03-23-2011, 07:59 PM
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Hot liquid tank. hes saying there would be a lot more people to potentialy get hurt, so you'd have a lot more liability.
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I'm getting ingredients in the mail today, and I can't even taste my beer yet. What should I do?
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I would make a yeast starter, and pitch it into your mailbox.
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03-23-2011, 08:10 PM
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There's a place here that lets people come in and brew their own beer and wine, come back to bottle, and take it with them. Not necessarily what you're looking at, but it's a unique set up ...
http://www.vinepark.com/
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03-23-2011, 08:15 PM
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Wait....this? And you want to open a brewery?
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Hot liquor tank. hes saying there would be a lot more people to potentialy get hurt, so you'd have a lot more liability.
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