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Old 02-03-2011, 04:28 PM   #221
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Sure. Between Spanish Castle, AZ IPA, and Cheshire the rest of us are just wasting our time anyways.

Or something like that.

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Oh, there's plenty of chances for other folks to win. I'm only entering three categories.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:30 PM   #222
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"Black IPA" is descriptive enough. If you want you can say you were going for the "you wouldn't know it was black if your eyes were closed" version or the "it's actually a little roasty" version.
Thanks! Now where does the entry number go?
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:50 PM   #223
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I packaged my APA yesterday and even with no carb it was all I could do to stop myself from drinking it all in one sitting. The others are getting packaged next week, except the RIS which I made a year ago.

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Old 02-03-2011, 06:44 PM   #224
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I packaged my APA yesterday and even with no carb it was all I could do to stop myself from drinking it all in one sitting. The others are getting packaged next week, except the RIS which I made a year ago.
I know that well. I swear, a nice, hoppy APA is best as soon as the yeast and dry hops drop.

Hopefully brewing a nice ESB this weekend. If it goes as planned, I may send that one in with my Dortmunder as well.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:09 PM   #225
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Help me pick the style for my entry!

My biggest problem with BJCP competitions is I never brew to style. Judges always comment how good my beer is but clobber me for entering it in the "wrong" category.

So, one of my entries is a Maris Otter, Chinook, US-05 SMaSH. 1.060 OG, 60ish IBU, and plenty of malt backbone. I was initially thinking 8C as it's reminiscent of Golden Strong Bitters I've had in London. Judges are supposed to judge this category pretty liberally, but 05 is clearly not an English yeast and the ferment was extremely clean. Now I'm second-guessing myself and thinking this belongs in 10A.

Where would you put this beer?

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Old 02-05-2011, 06:18 PM   #226
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1.060 + Chinook + US-05 = 10A

That would be my opinion.
Using all MO isn't that much different than using US 2-row and a little Munich.

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How malty is it? I mean are we talking scotch ale malty? 10A isn't supposed to be super malty, and also you have to watch out with MO because if it's too "nutty" you can get dinged for that, too. That is, if the maris otter character dominates the flavor then it's probably not going to score well. But it really depends on the judge for that kind of stuff. Also IBUs, atlhough definitely subjective, are very high for that style. Although, if it balances well with the malt you can probably get away with it.

You have the same problem I do with competitions in that I just brew stuff that I want to drink. I have finally come to the conclusion that if you are planning to enter a comp it's better to build a beer around a category rather than trying to shoehorn something that's out of style into one. Or pick a beer you've made that IS in style and enter that.

For this one, when I entered I only had one of the beers brewed already, so I tried to alter and/or design my recipes around style guidelines this time, or at least moreso than I usually do.

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You've both nailed my dilemma. I'm leaning towards switching to 10A though. 8C is so open for malt and hops, judges are really gonna focus on looking for English yeast character. This beer definitely has malt presence. I'm just going to have to hope it comes later in the flight where judges may find being on the edge of style "stands out" for them.

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. . . judges are really gonna focus on looking for English yeast character.
This is the main reason to not go for 8C.
It specificly says, "Characterful English yeast."
Heck, you're into the American IPA range with bitterness and gravity.
Trouble is the bigger beers almost always win.
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I've never mailed beer before. I am sending in 6 bottles. Does anyone have any recommendations of what company to use and the best way to package these? I was thinking of just putting the beers in a 6 pack holder, wrapping bubble wrap around it and sticking it in a box. Is there a better way to do this?

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