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Old 06-08-2010, 12:24 PM   #51
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Thanks for the detailed reply. This is the only information we have to go on so far. Again, no email communication from the organizers. Our club entered two large boxes of entries and we dont have any indication of them arriving safely or even being judged really. A few of them were barrel aged, so maybe that potential 3rd BOS is one of them.

Looking forward to the results. Thanks for the info.

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Old 06-08-2010, 07:09 PM   #52
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Thanks for the detailed reply. This is the only information we have to go on so far. Again, no email communication from the organizers. Our club entered two large boxes of entries and we dont have any indication of them arriving safely or even being judged really. A few of them were barrel aged, so maybe that potential 3rd BOS is one of them.

Looking forward to the results. Thanks for the info.
You must not enter many competitions... and have clearly never organized. It's a **** ton of work and done without any real compensation.

Here's how every comp in the country works if you enter.

They receive your beer and put it in cold storage. The day of the comp it is judged and scores given. At the end of the judging there is usually a raffle and places are announced. A few days later positions might be put online, then weeks later you get your score sheet in the mail, possible with a medal. The organizer has to address and put the right score sheets in over 200 envelopes. That takes some time. It is very common for you to wait a month or more to get them back.

No one is ever going to e-mail you and say they received your beer. If you followed directions and shipped them safely, you can assume they were judged.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:42 PM   #53
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I have been involved in many competitions as an entrant, steward and judge. I understand how it works.

Competition organization takes a lot of time.
I understand that scoresheets take time.
Mailing out prizes takes time.

Posting results online takes pretty much as much time as it just took you to post that reply.

Many competitions I've entered have posted results within a day. Some post that night. One I entered this year posted individual categories within minutes of results throughout the day. I dont care if scoresheets/ribbons arrive weeks/months later. Putting a quick list of names online doesnt take much effort.

We are looking to plan ahead for the next competition. Online results show what beers might be worthwhile to mail out to the next competition before its too late.

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With all due respect z987k, Im with Spauldig in regards to posting results online. Ive also worked some comps, and I do know how much work goes into them. It's a massive effort. But I dont think it's asking too much for someone to log onto their computer that night or the next day and upload the results. Not trying to perpetuate an argument. I'm just saying that it would go a long way to improving things.

Maybe I'll enter this comp next year, and try to improve upon my 2nd BOS from last year.

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Old 06-09-2010, 01:28 AM   #55
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FWIW, I just got an email from Kyle that they've submitted the results to the webmaster and should be posted soon. Though I guess the definition of "soon" is rather open. Soon might be two days in webmaster time.

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Old 06-09-2010, 03:25 AM   #56
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Results are up:
http://buzzbrewclub.org/wp/brew-off/...eyard-brewoff/

Nice work Ken!

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I can't believe you guys were whining about results getting up Tuesday after a competition.

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Old 06-09-2010, 12:39 PM   #58
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I was there. Judged "Normal" Stouts on Friday, Then Imperial, IPA's and the high gravity thingy Saturday. I think we gave a RIS and an IPA a score in the 40's otherwise nothing that was extremely memorable. A lot of the IPA's were bitterly astringent - like clearly from too much hop bitterness and many were lacking hop flavor, which was interesting. Good bit of cardboard was showing up here and there in the styles I judged. Something I noticed lacking from a lot of the RIS was a dark fruit flavor. It's not supposed to be all up front, but completely missing, the beer then lacks some complexity. Something to think about if you are entering a RIS for a competition. I think a lot of people think a RIS is just a big fricken american or fex stout... which it really isn't. There's a lot more going on.
Good advice. I'm glad I'm not the only person on the internet who has noticed how common oxidation flaws are. I've noticed the same with IPAs, too much bitterness, not enough aroma. Which is weird because I suspect a lot of those beers (especially IIPAs) are clones of commercial beers (especially Pliny) that have tons of hop aroma.
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:23 PM   #59
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I think with the IPAs people are hung up on how many IBUs they can put in something and neglect the flavor and aroma additions to some degree which ends up with a beer that is astringent from the bittering hops enough so that any flavor it would have had is masked.

Oxidation is likely from mishandling, low bottle fills. I was thinking maybe from counter pressure fills that then sit around a good long time with that bit of headspace. Bottle conditioned should not really have that problem. And people should be using oxygen barrier caps if something is going to sit. Maybe splashing of the beer a lot when racking. Some may just be too old.
I don't know, it was prevelent enough that I really started to speculate (in my head) as to what was going on. Could that many people be doing the same thing wrong. I thought not, so I was just trying to come up with any reason I could think for oxidation. Dare I say it... maybe HSA. But that is all speculation as I have no idea as to the brewers actual practices.

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