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Old 10-27-2008, 08:36 PM   #11
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I guess I got too many old, inbred , rednecks around here that think the black bars means they are not getting their money's worth from their TV.
Just wait until you hear idiots complaining that the Blu-Ray disc they bought has black bars on their widscreen HDTV. People seem to think that if its in HD it should fill that 16X9 display completely. I sure hope mass adoption of that format does not see a bunch of 2.4:1 aspect movies resized to 1.78:1.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:46 PM   #12
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Most cable/satellite providers are already cropping scope movies to 16:9 on their HD channels for that very reason. It's disgusting.

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Old 10-27-2008, 09:18 PM   #13
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Guess I'm in the minority here, but widescreen looks like sh*t in my opinion. The bars are annoying as hell, and it's stretched all goofy if you change the ratio. The only argument I've ever heard from widescreen fans is that you get to "see more". Well the actors are in the middle of the screen, 99% of the action is in the middle of the screen. I don't need to see and extra 6" of a building when it is totally irrelevant. My TV screen is wider than it is tall, but widescreen wastes so much of the screen. I don't have the best vision, so I'd have to buy a TV like 3 sizes larger to get the same amount of area out of a widescreen movie as compared to standard.

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Old 10-27-2008, 11:52 PM   #14
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Ugh. You have a gripe with directors and no one else. I personally want to see what the director envisioned when it was shot, period. I don't care what the ratio is. I hope you are in the minority.

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Old 10-28-2008, 01:07 AM   #15
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Fullscreen is a funny thing. "this film has been modified to fit your crappy TV." Its all relative. I run S-video from one of my desktops for movies, so I can do whatever I want with ratios and resolutions

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. . . I run S-video from one of my desktops for movies, so I can do whatever I want with ratios and resolutions.
S-Video will get you a good picture in SD, but for HD you'll need at least component, or better yet HDMI or DVI for digital HD.

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Old 10-28-2008, 07:22 PM   #17
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Guess I'm in the minority here, but widescreen looks like sh*t in my opinion. The bars are annoying as hell, and it's stretched all goofy if you change the ratio. The only argument I've ever heard from widescreen fans is that you get to "see more". Well the actors are in the middle of the screen, 99% of the action is in the middle of the screen. I don't need to see and extra 6" of a building when it is totally irrelevant. My TV screen is wider than it is tall, but widescreen wastes so much of the screen. I don't have the best vision, so I'd have to buy a TV like 3 sizes larger to get the same amount of area out of a widescreen movie as compared to standard.
Well, As others have said, watching a 4:3 ration on a widescreen still yields bars, so if you have the choice, watch what fits your TV best. FWIW, I still dislike the "Pan and Scan" method of editing the movie to keep the action or actors in the frame still eliminates the whole feel of the scene. Some movies are purposely shot with an even wider aspect to capture the mood of the expanse of the scene. Purposely wanting to miss things in the scene is sort of strange IMO.

After watching the movie for a few minutes, I don't notice the black bars. In fact, I watch 4:3 broadcast TV at standard ratio on my widescreen, just to avoid stretching, and the black bars are not even noticeable after a few minutes.

I don't get the claim that you are going to need a TV 3X the size if widescreen. The same size TV would yield the same size of display. (Except I like the there are better resolution options with some movies now, which would actually make the scene seem smaller in comparison, but you get more detail.)
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I started buying WS versions of movies even before I finally got a WS tv. So glad I did - can't stand pan'n'scan! I want to see the shot framed the way the director intended, not a compromise aimed at getting the most 'stuff' in the shot. It was filmed a certain way for a reason (most times! ) The bars never botherd me at all, but I guess it's just a personal thing. Once the lights are dimmed, I don't even notice that they are there

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The black bars don't bother me, but the pan-and-scan that some movies have for the full screen version of wide-screen movies bothers the crap out of me.

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I purposely bought DLP to not have any concerns about burn in or feel obligated to distort the image to fill the screen. Black bars, I don't care. They blend in nicely with the expanse of black around the TV.

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