Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing

HAHA, so true! I worked as a wrench at the local Yamaha/Ducati shop while I was in college. It was great fun, and as a motorcycle rider myself it was great to test ride LOTS of different bikes. But man did I see every damn last idiot in there with a wad of money and nothing for brains. We saw so many new sportbikes go out the door, only to return a week or two later totally trashed. We used to joke amongst ourselves when we sold an R1/R6/996 that we give 'em two weeks. Usually if they made it past two weeks, they'd probably be all right...they would have scared themselves enough to be careful.

I remeber this one guy's mom bought him a Ducati 996 (sick bike BTW) for his 18th birthday. He made it exactly 1/2 of one block; he turned right and gunned it and promptly learned what kind of power the Ducati v-twins have. He disregarded our advice to take it easy the first few hundred miles on the new tires. That little spill caused over $3k worth of damage...and he was lucky it was a low speed turn. I felt bad for the kid, but at the same time pissed becuase he had the money for the bike but not the respect. I had the exact opposite problem...

There are too many stories to mention, but as a MC rider I have to say that most riders that make it past 25 yrs old are very capable and careful. Just like any piece of equipment, you have to know how to use it properly and respect it's power.

Originally Posted by NitrouStang96

I don't care what kind of pads you have, the tires are what stop a car. 1sec? Hmm... 1-2sec isn't hard to believe if it's got some wide, sticky tires, though I don't know how heavy a 911 is.

Originally Posted by z987k

yeah I don't feel bad for riders that decide that all advice of very seasoned riders is dumb.

140+hp, well that's what you start on of course, cause my olds 88 has more than that!
Helmets, well their meant to be ornaments on the helmet lock. (riding 2 up with 2 helmets in the locks is even cooler!)
Learning to ride a bike, well I ride a bicycle, how different can they be?
Gloves? It's not snowing!
Jacket, that's not cool. Now a cutoff t-shirt, well thats cool. (so are skin graphs apparently.)
Pants... baH! Khaki shorts help keep you cooled off from the heat of the summer, after all it isn't nice enough to ride a bike unless it's 80+
And footwear, well you should always wear sandals.

Oh well these people usually weed themselves out of the gene pool fast enough. Money + no brains usually = serious injury or death... or a politician.

Originally Posted by kornkob

Thus, out of rational self interest, I strongly encourage all motorcyclists to not do drugs, make sure they eat a balanced diet and always ride wearing full leathers and no helmet.

Originally Posted by beergears

I refuse to do any of that!
Stay healthy so that parts of my body goes to someone dumber than me, or mean (lots of 'em out there), or a nurse calling me names... I say no, thank you!

Seriously, I opted out of my original organ donor status because I now believe a majority of people actually suck in some way. I may be wrong on this... tough.

Originally Posted by kornkob

Selfish bastard.

Originally Posted by NitrouStang96

Heh, maybe so. 1sec is certainly a stretch, but I think most people don't know just how fast you can stop a car, especially if it's light and has some good rubber. Mine would be in the 1.xx range with stock brake pads instead of his "9k ceramics" if it weren't such a heavy pig Wide rubber and big discs make all the difference.

Originally Posted by SC_Ryan

Most people haven't driven on r comps and have no idea what a tire can do.

Originally Posted by Sir Humpsalot

I think it'd be pretty difficult to scare yourself silly with a car. Nowadays even incredibly fast cars are pretty sedate when driven sanely. Sure, you might get ham-footed on the throttle in the turn or something, but in general, I think that if you're buying an enthusiast car, you likely have enough knowledge and experience to handle it well enough, at least at and around the speed limits. A track, of course is a different matter. But, bottom line, I don't think people would scare themselves too frequently in a car, even a high-powered machine such as that.

But I know it does happen all of the time with motorcycles. I don't think it's so much the super capabilities of the bike as it is the fact that, contrary to what people want to think, riding a motorcycle is nothing like riding a bicycle. But, a cage is a cage. Honda Civic? Porsche Bi-Turbo? Pretty much the same except when you mash on the pedal or decide to show it off.

So, to make an equivalent example, I'd say Honda Civic to Porsche Bi-Turbo is kind of like bicycle to Moped. But that doesn't even begin to account for the leap you encounter when you get into supersport bikes. I mean, let's be realistic, an R1 is more like a Formula 1 car than a Porsche Bi-Turbo is (by that, I mean the R1 is a pure race machine, no frills, no radio, no airbags, no crumple zones, no crash protection, just the bare minimum lights, license plate bracket, and a horn that you need to be street legal, and that is it) and yet, there is no vehicle besides another motorcycle that can ever prepare you for handling an R1. You learn to drive a Dodge Omni, you'll know how to drive a Porsche. But riding a scooter, bicycle, etc does NOT teach you how to ride a motorcycle.

Originally Posted by duffman2

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