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Old 03-30-2011, 07:31 PM   #1
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Default Taxes in MI? How about in TX?

I'm considering a position in Lansing, MI but would like to know about how much of my hard earned dollars the state will be taking. It looks like the cost of living is less (how's the quality of living though?) which could help... I already tried searching online and only got some vague information (about 4.5% taken by the state I believe)... Is this about right?

Also, what's the home brewing situation like out there? IF it sucks, via stupid state limitations, then that's a ding against taking the position...

I'm also interviewing for a position that's going to at least start local to me, but since the company is closing this location in the next few months, it could shift to Texas... As much as I'd rather stay where it's cool most of the year, I need to be realistic for jobs. It's with a major name company (household word) so I know it's not going anywhere. I did see that Texas is good for the home brewing laws, but how are the taxes and such? That's another area where the cost of living would be less than where I am now, so if the pay stays the same, I should be better off...

Hate being out of work this long. Makes me really have to consider moving to different parts of the country, which I wouldn't have done even a few months back...

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:03 PM   #2
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Texas ROCKS.. state tax is roughly 8.25% (maybe slightly more or less in certain areas of the state)

Im not sure about the homebrewing laws really. If you living in a big city like Houston or Dallas, then your cost of living will be less but your Real Estate/School taxes are going to be higher. I live in a small suburb south of Houston.

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:07 PM   #3
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Well, I believe the company location would be in Houston, but that doesn't mean I need to live IN the city.. Actually, I prefer to live in the suburbs/more rural areas...

Also looks like something good could happen with a job in NH... Another state I've been looking to move to... At least I won't need to worry about long, hot, summers in NH...

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Cost of living in Michigan is very low, but Lansing is probably more expensive than other places in Michigan (college town, lower unemployment, more expensive housing) and you're correct- income tax is about 4%. Sales tax is 6%, but not on food. Homebrew supplies like grains are food. Since the recession, housing prices have fallen dramatically although they were comparatively low to begin with.

Homebrew laws are great. No real restrictions at all, and a good LHBS near Lansing.

In Texas (where we spend colder months), there is a higher sales tax, but no income tax. Housing is quite a bit more, but gasoline is a big cheaper.

I'd say that since those are my two chosen states anyway, that those are good choices!

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Thanks Yooper...

The job in MI is a 6 month contract... Found out that it's only a 35 hour work week... So two dings against it there.

The one in Texas would be perm (before I accepted moving)... While local it would be contract.

More stoked about working in Portsmouth, NH though.... I think Texas could be a good second choice for me... I hear their gun laws are more in line with what I like...

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:14 PM   #6
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I live in Michigan, and for the most part its not too shabby. City taxes are 1% if you live in the city, and .05% if you work in the city but live elsewhere. I personally think its crap, but that's me. I think you're right on the State taxes for MI, but I filed those a bit ago, and haven't looked back :P They do have the 'Use Tax' for buying things online, which is disappointing, but it seems thats the way most States are going. Mostly what I disagree with is the notion that if you earn more, you spend more online (which while the trends may be true, its a correlation/causation issue for me).

There's a couple of home brew shops within a 20-30 minute drive of Lansing. Red Salamander in Grand Ledge is the smaller of the two, but almost always has what I need. Things Beer, part of Michigan Brewing Company in Williamston is pretty good, and that's where I get my bulk grain from ($30 2-row bags!). I wish one or the other were closer, but for now its fine.

And without knowing the costs of living in the other places you're looking, I have to say that I just put in an offer on a house for $10k. I suspect it needs less than $5k worth of work to be in pretty good shape, and its not in a bad location - just needs a little bit of love. So.... housing is cheap. There's also a few nicer communities around and in Lansing, but you pay the price to be there. Property taxes are, in my opinion, high - especially in Lansing. There are definitely some areas in Lansing I wouldn't live, and avoid driving through, but some of those fears are irrational. We did look at one place where we never got out of the car, and about two months later drove through showing some friends and were greeted by at least 5 cops hiding in the bushes working on some sort of bust. We didn't get pulled over or anything but the fact that they were present was enough to reassure us that we made a good decision not living there.

But as far as I know Michigan is pretty decent for homebrewers. I believe its the typical 100 gal per adult in the residence, up to 200 gal limit. No sales or anything like that but otherwise I haven't had any problems with homebrewing and havent heard of anyone having difficulties.

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:15 PM   #7
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Just keep in mind the property tax in Texas, that and the sales tax is where the state gets it money. Property taxes will vary by county and should not be too bad in Houston relative to say Austin. You get really nice winters but yes the summer sucks. Brewing beer here does not seem to be an issue that I am aware of but have not checked the specific laws.

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4%?! No income tax!?

good ol' WI, for most people ($26k to $200k married joint return, or 20-151k for individual), tax is $1444 (yes, a base tax) + 6.5% for everything over $26k

sales tax is 5% (and most counties add 0.5% on top of that)

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motobrewer, WI isn't in the scope right now...

So far, states in contention are (in order of preference due to jobs): NH, TX, MA, MI...

Getting a phone interview lined up for the job in NH, that my resume was sent over for just yesterday (afternoon)... Keeping my fingers crossed for that one... Would LOVE to move to NH soon... Nice gun laws, home brewing laws, good weather, close enough to family, but still far enough away... Oh, and there's a guy that's started a mead making company that I'll be reaching out to in the next couple of weeks... So, I might have a part time job too... Going to see if he has any interest in also offering beer. If not, then I'll still see about working there. Even if it's for free initially, or maybe in exchange for some ingredients for myself to use, or just to use some of the hardware there...

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:48 PM   #10
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I live in a suburb of Dallas and LOVE it! My income taxes are 0%, sales tax is 8.25%, and my property taxes are about 3%

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