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olllllo 12-05-2007 06:41 PM

Whats the scoop Yuri?
Is this going to be a problem for our jocks?


Yuri_Rage 12-06-2007 02:27 AM

Nice videos!!!

The F-22 is quite certainly superior, though. It was built with a far greater budget, more recent technology, and under more stable management.

The F-22 is extremely maneuverable, making it a formidable short range adversary, while its technology and missiles make it extremely capable in the long range arena.

olllllo 12-06-2007 02:43 AM

Thanks for your response. My layman's assumptions about long vs short range were confirmed by your post and so to that... USA USA USA. When we know its on = game over.

I guess my thoughts about the advantage of these planes is they will be in some sort of harassment mode where the goal is provocation. This seems to be the tactic d'jour of a smaller airforce or even a larger inexperiences one like China. I think we have an example of that with the Hainan collision (although the collision was not the expected outcome).

MikeFlynn74 12-06-2007 06:26 AM

Yuri is correct on most everything-

PRoblems with the F22-
When its radar is on searching it broadcast its position.
The f22 takes a minimum of 2hrs to launch if its not on alert status.
Simple Wireless networking issues have grounded entire squadrons.
They cost 300 million per plane and are not easy or cheap to maintain.

Drunkensatyr 12-06-2007 06:56 AM

Also these planes were "put into" a show state. those pilots seemed to know where their plane was and how it would pull out. I say great job!

Chris_Dog 12-06-2007 10:38 AM

Wow the vectored thrust & great flying... very cool!

Yuri_Rage 12-06-2007 03:01 PM

Actually, I am personally not a huge proponent of the F-22 because of its impact on the USAF budget. It's certainly a very capable airplane, and the technology behind it is amazing!

Brakeman_Brewing 12-06-2007 03:03 PM

Mmmmm....Thrust vectoring.....

uglygoat 12-06-2007 03:14 PM

it would be cooler if we went back to the warbirds of wwII... i don't like all this jet and missle stuff.

Yuri_Rage 12-06-2007 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by uglygoat
it would be cooler if we went back to the warbirds of wwII... i don't like all this jet and missile stuff.

I have no idea how many times I've sat around the squadron having the "wouldn't it be cool to have lived 75 years ago?" conversation.

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