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Old 08-21-2007, 03:49 PM   #11
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Papazian has a wierd, involved chapter in one of his books about what brewing beer in space would be like.
Im pretty sure they recently gave that shot. But it didnt really work.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:29 AM   #12
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Was it visible nationwide? Bummer regardless. Lost of cloud cover here the last two days...


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Well the Shuttle has landed but you can still see the ISS. Here's a web site that will help you determine when it will be visible at your location:
http://www.heavens-above.com/
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:10 AM   #13
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Was glad to see that it made it in safely. I have a hard time trusting NASA when they say don't worry about it. Their lax attitude toward things has already cost us 14 lives since 1986.

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Old 08-22-2007, 04:35 AM   #14
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The thing that p!sses me off is that the shuttle never had any problems with foam coming off the external fuel tank and damaging the orbiter during the launch before the nutbag environmentalists lobbied congress to outlaw the use of CFC's in the manufacture of polystyrene foam. I can see not using it in the manufacture of foam for public consumption, like refrigerators and such, but to be directly responsible for the deaths of seven astronauts and risking the lives of many more, it's unconscionable!

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I'm sorry John, but you're logic seems questionable.

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Old 08-22-2007, 02:42 PM   #16
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The thing that p!sses me off is that the shuttle never had any problems with foam coming off the external fuel tank and damaging the orbiter during the launch before the nutbag environmentalists lobbied congress to outlaw the use of CFC's in the manufacture of polystyrene foam.
Not actually true, the foam has been falling off for years, they just didn't think it caused any damage until the Columbia disaster. Now it is something they are actively looking for so they are finding it hitting the shuttle all the time. Also they outfitted the shuttle with a means of inspecting the tiles while in space (something it did not have prior to the Columbia explosion) so they are detecting damage (and reporting it in the media) that they would not have known about before even if it was there.

I'm not saying the enviros don't sometimes go overboard with things, just saying I don't think we can blame them for this one.
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The kids and I went to Disney World and on a cruise in January 2003 and saw the Columbia take off. It was an amazing sight. We were so sad when the disaster occurred two weeks later- it seemed so awesome and invulnerable when we watched it lift off. Quite a sight!

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Was glad to see that it made it in safely. I have a hard time trusting NASA when they say don't worry about it. Their lax attitude toward things has already cost us 14 lives since 1986.
I have a hard time trusting the government when they keep saying 'trust us on Iraq' while thousands of our soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians have died....makes 14 seem sort of irrelevant.
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I have a hard time trusting the government when they keep saying 'trust us on Iraq' while thousands of our soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians have died....makes 14 seem sort of irrelevant.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Maybe my thinking is different being in the military, but I look at the War on Terror in a different light. Basically if we take on the enemy over there, they won't be as likely to come over here.
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I have a hard time trusting the government when they keep saying 'trust us on Iraq' while thousands of our soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians have died....makes 14 seem sort of irrelevant.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Maybe my thinking is different being in the military, but I look at the War on Terror in a different light. Basically if we take on the enemy over there, they won't be as likely to come over here.
and all I wanted to do was talk about how cool it is to see the shuttle and the ISS pass over head. Maybe get some other folks to go out in their back yards and see it.
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