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cheezydemon3 06-22-2010 02:29 AM

Sherlock Holmes (DOWNEY JR)
 
Take an almost historical beloved character from fiction, known for his composure, wit and incredible intellect.

Seamlessly transform him into a martial arts master and action hero who is slightly unstable and misunderstood in his brilliance,(which Downey is at extreme risk of being type-cast in only his second role back from the abyss) give him a taste for cage fighting and a side kick.

Imagine sherlock and Dr Watson (the portly and......I mean the ever sexy jude law....:confused:) in a film of punching and fighting, where sherlock and watson beat up whole gangs for an appetizer, before holmes beats up some huge guy in the 17th century version of a cage match for the main course.......where 19th century England is cool as $hit, and everyone is awesome.

If this sounds good to you, turn off the justin timberlake you are listening to, grab some ice cold budweiser, and settle in for a good time.

For those of you who are doubtful but figure "Well, Iron man was SO good! SO......I will give this movie a shot."

Turn back now.

I lasted 40 minutes or so.

PHUCK THIS MOVIE.

HORRIBLE.

WillPall 06-22-2010 02:37 AM

I see you are a Basil Rathbone fan as well? Good career choice for Downey Jr. Bad bad bad interpretation of Holmes.

northernlad 06-22-2010 02:50 AM

So, movies snobs too...

arturo7 06-22-2010 03:27 AM

Why did they use a Yank? What's up with the Kung Fu? I doubt if A.C. Doyle would approve.

Anyone seen the semi-recent BBC series with Jeremy Brett? Absolutely outstanding!! (Instant Watch on Netflix)


As for Iron Man, I saw it last week. What a disappointment. Just a long series of cliches.

cheezydemon3 06-22-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arturo7 (Post 2123790)
Why did they use a Yank? What's up with the Kung Fu? I doubt if A.C. Doyle would approve.

Anyone seen the semi-recent BBC series with Jeremy Brett? Absolutely outstanding!! (Instant Watch on Netflix)


As for Iron Man, I saw it last week. What a disappointment. Just a long series of cliches.

We stream through the Wii, thanks for the recommendation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by northernlad (Post 2123730)
So, movies snobs too...

Really, I guess it is the potential that a movie has to be really great, that is not only left on the floor, but trampled, impaled, and spat upon that upsets me.

And yeah, I refuse to watch crap. What's the problem?

BraveSirRobin 06-22-2010 02:47 PM

I agree, Sherlock Holmes was such a huge letdown for me.

hal2814 06-22-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezydemon3 (Post 2123707)
Take an almost historical beloved character from fiction, known for his composure, wit and incredible intellect.

Seamlessly transform him into a martial arts master and action hero who is slightly unstable and misunderstood in his brilliance,(which Downey is at extreme risk of being type-cast in only his second role back from the abyss) give him a taste for cage fighting and a side kick.

Imagine sherlock and Dr Watson (the portly and......I mean the ever sexy jude law....:confused:) in a film of punching and fighting, where sherlock and watson beat up whole gangs for an appetizer, before holmes beats up some huge guy in the 17th century version of a cage match for the main course.......where 19th century England is cool as $hit, and everyone is awesome.

If this sounds good to you, turn off the justin timberlake you are listening to, grab some ice cold budweiser, and settle in for a good time.

For those of you who are doubtful but figure "Well, Iron man was SO good! SO......I will give this movie a shot."

Turn back now.

I lasted 40 minutes or so.

PHUCK THIS MOVIE.

HORRIBLE.

Go to your local bookstore and for like $10-$20 you can pick up everything Doyle ever wrote about Holmes. Then go home and actually read it. Your impression of him will change significantly. I do agree that Watson was grossly mis-characterized but Holmes was very viable given the source material. He wasn't "cage fighting." He was bareknuckle boxing and yeah, he did that in at least one story I can recall. In fact, in that one I'm thinking of (had to look up the title: The Sign of the Four), he alludes to bareknuckle as something of a hobby. There is also ample mention of Holmes' prowess with swords and short staff-style weaponry. There is also extensive reference to Holmes using martial arts, but most of what I recall there comes from after his "cliffhanger" with Moriarty. It wasn't my favorite version of Holmes but I personally had no problem with how he was portrayed. If anything, the Guy Ritchie rendition is just a bit of a backlash at decades of film and TV that completely ignore this side of Holmes' character.

weirdboy 06-22-2010 03:29 PM

The Jeremy Brett series is fantastic...


I haven't seen the film yet, but from everything I've heard it's actually close to the character as portrayed in the books.

jgln 06-22-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arturo7 (Post 2123790)
Why did they use a Yank? What's up with the Kung Fu? I doubt if A.C. Doyle would approve.

Anyone seen the semi-recent BBC series with Jeremy Brett? Absolutely outstanding!! (Instant Watch on Netflix)


As for Iron Man, I saw it last week. What a disappointment. Just a long series of cliches.

Jeremy Brett was awesome in that role, the best one ever. Such a shame he died, I wish they had made more of them but I can watch them over and over again they are so good. I love the way he would wave his hand to dismiss someone once he was done with them, a polite "Please go away now"

Do you like the Poirot series with David Suchet? Another of my all time favorite characters. The setting and costumes make you feel you are really watching people living in those times.

menschmaschine 06-22-2010 06:12 PM

Big Holmes fan here... not in a ridiculously geeky way, but let's just say I've actually been to Reichenbach Falls.:)

Jeremy Brett was by far the quintessential Holmes. Both of the Watsons were also pretty good in those films/shows, but I prefer the earlier one better. I own most of the Jeremy Brett series... except for Hound of the Baskervilles, which was a bit of a disappointment for Brett. And he is difficult to watch in The Eligible Bachelor and some of the other later episodes due to his declining health.

I must admit I was entertained by the Robert Downey Holmes movie, but it was definitely not true to the character of Holmes in Doyle's books. (His slovenly dress was so anti-Victorian and not characteristic of the gentleman Holmes). But compared to the other crap spewed forth by the modern commercial film industry, it was at least a fun watch.


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