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**Zuljin** · 12-18-2012, 01:14 AM

Bear Glass Powered Bearcat, #45. Either early 60 or early 70s. Coin is silver in color and recessed. Can't tell if tips are overlayed.

Damon Howatt (now pat of Martin) Cavalier, #45. Maybe 1958 to 197?. Tips not overlayed but they do have that string grove just below them.

Both look mighty fine and priced right. Tempted to buy now.

I feel way to excited about this.

**45_70sharps** · 12-18-2012, 01:28 AM

Those both sound like bows that I would love to add to my collection.
45# Is enough for deer hunting And depending on your length of pull it may be a little heavier than that.

A 45 pound bow is a great bow to start with.
It is heavy enough to shoot well and light enough to let you concentrate on your form.

**Zuljin** · 12-18-2012, 02:19 AM

I've read 30-45 pounds for getting into recurve. I'm looking at 45-50, mainly 40-45. Mainly, mainly, 45.

Texas used to require 40 for hunting, but recently did away with any weight requirement. From my understanding, 40 was not at all unreasonable. Sure, there are a great many more variables to a good kill shot than draw weight, but flicking toothpicks at American large game aint gonna work.

oogaboogachiefwalkingdeer · 12-18-2012, 03:14 AM

Many deer are dead because of a 40lb bow. Use the heaviest arrow you can spine for the bow and shoot two blade SHARP broad heads and you can get pass thru shoots regularly if you choose wise shot angles. Mike

**Zuljin** · 12-18-2012, 03:53 AM

Oh, y'all are in for a lot of stray cat feeding once I start into arrows.

Fishing arrows were easy. Fiberglass rod, knock, barbed tip. Bam. Fletching and spining? Nope. The hard part was rigging them up to stay on the line.

I was digging through my junk and found some old broad heads I had picked up years ago. I don't think any of these are suitable. 3 and 4 "blade". "Blade" because they aint sharp enough to cut butter. I'm not sure they'd even cut the air between me and a target.

Do I get to use real feathers? Will Grackle feathers work? I can get those all day.

**45_70sharps** · 12-18-2012, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by oogaboogachiefwalkingdeer

Many deer are dead because of a 40lb bow. Use the heaviest arrow you can spine for the bow and shoot two blade SHARP broad heads and you can get pass thru shoots regularly if you choose wise shot angles. Mike

Very true. I've always liked ash arrows. Heavy and strong. Put a good two bladed head on it and it does wonders.
Cedar arrows came into being mostly because they are light and a bit faster so they were good for target shooting. Heavy will pass through better and don't break as easy.

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Originally Posted by Zuljin

I was digging through my junk and found some old broad heads I had picked up years ago. I don't think any of these are suitable. 3 and 4 "blade". "Blade" because they aint sharp enough to cut butter. I'm not sure they'd even cut the air between me and a target.

Do I get to use real feathers? Will Grackle feathers work? I can get those all day.

You can sharpen a broadhead up pretty well. I keep a small clean file and a small diamond stone with me. I like two blade, but a two blade broadhead with the two little bleeder blades on the sides works well. They are inserts. Bear and zwicky are good.

You want feathers for sure if you are shooting off the shelf or using your finger as a rest for the arrow. You wont get good flight with vanes.

I don't know about Grackle feathers. Turkey are the right size and there are right and left feathers. That is important. Your fletching jig will determine left or right feathers.

**Zuljin** · 12-18-2012, 11:07 PM

Awwwwww yeah!

Just bought a BEAR ARCHERY BLACK PANTHER HUNTER RECURVE BOW RH / 40# / 52".

The bow is marked 40/45#. I forget what my draw is since it didn't matter before, but I'm not monkey arms, so I expect I'll get ~40 out of it. Dude on eBay said it scaled 40# @ 28" on his digital scale. His eBay business seems to be selling archery gear, so...

Best I can figure, with the serial # starting with a K and the bear coin being silver in color and raised, this is a 1972 or after model. Possibly sold at Montgomery Wards. Some say Sears, but I've seen Sears branded bows marked with the Sears name.

It's a shoot off the shelf type, too. I was hoping for that. A solid 45# would have been 10/10 on druthers, but hey, I've let several bows slip by already.

Paid $160, shipped. Have seen them go for more.

Whatcha think?

**45_70sharps** · 12-18-2012, 11:16 PM

That is going to be a fine bow for you.
I think there is a good chance that you will find your length of pull to bring that near the 45 pound mark, but don't worry about that.
You are about to fall in love. Shooting that thing will become an obsession!

PapsD · 12-19-2012, 01:57 AM

That's a good deal for a bow like that. Like others have said 40lbs is plenty. It'd make a good bow for Turkey hunting too.

5lbs isn't gonna make much difference in speed.

**J8D** · 12-19-2012, 12:24 PM

Great score!!!! I have watched the older Bear bows off an on for awhile. I would like to get a smaller bow for blind hunting. That thing is going to be a blast. Congratulations.