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Old 12-14-2012, 05:23 PM   #31
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I do plan on shooting instinctively. I don't even want sights or a bunch of bolt of stuff. I have it for my old compound still.

When I was bowfishing, the pins and peep sight I had quickly became useless anyway. It's easier to aim down the arrow than through a peep, at a pin, on a fish that's underwater and sometimes moving.

I don't expect this will be exactly the same though. Bowfishing is often a matter of feet away, not 20 yards. Way different arrows too.

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Old 12-14-2012, 05:51 PM   #32
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Start practicing instinctive shooting with your wheelie bow.
Pull the sights and get shooting!

Don't use the arrow as a sight.
Just look at where you want the arrow to go and shoot.

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I quit hunting with a bow a long time ago because I did not enjoy shooting a compound,finally found a recurve I liked at a decent price,Damon Howat Mamba and enjoy shooting it.

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Old 12-15-2012, 01:42 AM   #34
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"...Don't use the arrow as a sight.
Just look at where you want the arrow to go and shoot."
That's good advice. One way of saying this is that where you are looking is your "front anchor" and where you are putting your rear hand and indexing against your face is your "rear anchor." Knowing that you are on a line between front and rear anchors allows you to shoot straighter, imho, than concentrating on the arrow as a "sight" - but that's just me.

The confusion lies in thinking that if your eye is close to the arrow and you are shooting down the line of the arrow, then you must be using the arrow as a sight. That's not true: the arrow just happens to be on the line and will follow its trajectory.
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Okay. Rip 'em up.

http://www.martinarchery.com/2012/sabertd.php

http://www.martinarchery.com/2012/jaguartd.php

The difference I see between the two is that the Saber has some vibration reducers, "VEM"s on it and spacers (?) between the limbs and riser. I've seen pictures of the Saber taken apart. The spacers (?) are separate pieces. Martin offers replacement "VEM"s too.

When I thought of this, I was thinking of going one piece (so called even though they are often made from multiple pieces and types of wood on one bow), but TD costs less and there is the lighter draw weight option by just swapping limbs. Martin doesn't say these are ILF, so I may be locked into only Martin limbs, but it doesn't look like Martin is going away any time soon.

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And a third

http://www.martinarchery.com/2012/explorer.php

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Old 12-17-2012, 04:04 PM   #37
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I've got a Bear Grizzly http://www.beararcheryproducts.com/b...tional/grizzly that I love to shoot. 55lb draw, not too hard to control.

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That's good advice. One way of saying this is that where you are looking is your "front anchor" and where you are putting your rear hand and indexing against your face is your "rear anchor." Knowing that you are on a line between front and rear anchors allows you to shoot straighter, imho, than concentrating on the arrow as a "sight" - but that's just me.

The confusion lies in thinking that if your eye is close to the arrow and you are shooting down the line of the arrow, then you must be using the arrow as a sight. That's not true: the arrow just happens to be on the line and will follow its trajectory.
Rear anchor is a key. The rest is just muscle memory and practice.
I explain it to people that can't get their head around the idea of not using anything as a sight like this.

How do you sight when you throw a rock? You look at what you want to hit and throw. Same thing.

If you wanted to learn from the best, there is a book called "Become the arrow" by Byron Ferguson. I have never read it but Byron is probably one of the best shots with a longbow that has ever lived.

The man shoots aspirin out of the air and has a whole slew of trick shots that you can't believe.
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Rear anchor is a key. The rest is just muscle memory and practice.
I explain it to people that can't get their head around the idea of not using anything as a sight like this.

How do you sight when you throw a rock? You look at what you want to hit and throw. Same thing.

If you wanted to learn from the best, there is a book called "Become the arrow" by Byron Ferguson. I have never read it but Byron is probably one of the best shots with a longbow that has ever lived.

The man shoots aspirin out of the air and has a whole slew of trick shots that you can't believe.
X2.

good form and consistency from shot to shot is vital. Some tuning problems can actually becaused by poor shooting form.

The thing I've learned about shooting that helped me the most was to visualize hitting the target before the shot and don't over think the shot.
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I quit hunting with a bow a long time ago because I did not enjoy shooting a compound,finally found a recurve I liked at a decent price,Damon Howat Mamba and enjoy shooting it.
I too enjoy shooting my recurve. I could shoot at targets all day long. Heck, one of the funnest parts of hunting with a recurve (spot an stock for elk) is stump shooting. I don't know what it is but shooting a traditional bow is just a blast. I would take shooting my recurve over shooting anything else I have ever fired (155 mm, M60, 12 gauge, M203, 30-06, air strike, writst rocket, etc...) combined.
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