jOitheboat

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Science isn't perfect- that's what makes it science. Go with the best data at hand and test new hypothesis and update when there is good evidence to do so. I will always pick science over a hunch.

Sure, milk from a small farmer who isn't over populating and isn't pumping his cows full of growth hormones has absolute benefits. Bringing the milk to temperature to sanitize it doesn't negate those benefits.

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SpeedYellow

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But food science is a complete joke. Just a few years ago they told us margarine was much better for us than butter. Now they say that was wrong. And they told us eggs were terrible for us. Now they say that was wrong. And they still tell us red wine is good, but when they take the "good" parts and make a drug with it, it doesn't work at all. And our food pyramid always used carbs as a foundation. Seen the rates of diabetes lately?

Now, I'm an engineer so I'm all about math & science, but the fact is human bodies and nutrition is just far too complicated for our reductionist science methods to understand. And milk is a very complicated food that science probably won't understand for a long time.

For those seeking better milk but aren't sure about raw, check out Super Natural (whole fat, of course), which Whole Foods carries. It's low-temperature pasteurized and from grass fed cows. Like most folks, I grew up drinking plain old cheap milk, but this stuff actually has flavor. And it's amazingly tasty!

SpeedYellow

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And p.s. IMHO I see an analogy between raw milk and soil fertility. Current ag practices are to pump our crops full of NPK and let the soil fertility be damned. Who cares about soil microorganisms when some petrochemicals will make the plant turn green overnight. Now people are starting to see how misguided that philosophy is.

Similarly, high-temp pasteurization kills the living stuff in milk, enzymes, bacterias, etc. Are we losing something useful? Who knows. I don't drink raw milk, but I respect the decision to do so.

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I wasn't going to reply with anything regarding this topic, but I wholeheartedly agree. Just look at all the FDA approved food and drugs that have known carcinogens in them.

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jOitheboat

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Germ theory is not a socialist conspiracy.

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SpeedYellow

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Nice straw man argument. Try again.