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Old 03-02-2008, 03:14 PM   #21
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Well, watching people waddle around, I can't help but think higher food prices could be a good thing.
That and the proliferation of waste.
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Old 03-02-2008, 04:36 PM   #22
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They can't take away sex can they???
swmbo already has a monopoly on that.....
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Old 03-02-2008, 04:44 PM   #23
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Not married are ya.....
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Old 03-02-2008, 05:26 PM   #24
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The point isn't about overeating, it about average people not being able to afford healthy staples. Bread, milk, and cheese are not luxury items but may become that way. BTW, everything in the food supply chain is connected and all food prices have skyrocketed. With 36 million Americans living below the poverty level, what are they suppose to eat?

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Old 03-02-2008, 06:17 PM   #25
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when my wife worked at the local elevator in 96 the cost of an average bushel of wheat for this area was $5.........................last year this time it was about $5 a bushel...............in 12 years the price of wheat didnt change by enough to notice......right now locally the average bushel is $15 or so though a few guys have the high protein stuff that worth about $18.50.....couple of them are holding out for $20 cause they just want to frame the receipt........cause they have never seen it at $20 a bushel and dont think they ever will again. no local farmer is expecting it to stay high, most are figuring it will drop back down to $5 in a year or two..............personally looking at the other agricultural products that are being tilled under to grow corn for the ethonal, i figure its going to level out to $10 or so a bushel in the next few years........it takes oil to grow wheat, either in diesel to run the machinery to plant, harvest and haul to the elevators..........not to mention the fertilizer and pesticides and herbicides that are made from petroleum.......... the cost of wheat should stay high but i think the current prices are a spike and nothing more........it should level out, granted at higher than the past but i doubt we will be paying $15 for average for to many years.............

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Old 03-02-2008, 06:32 PM   #26
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[...]ETA: Don't get too offended by my statements above, they're basically tongue in cheek. I do have family working the land and I really don't mean to insult most farmers.
Why are you so apologetic for you're ideas? Surely you didn't mean them sarcastically, because they are exactly right. Subsidization of American farming produces inefficiencies that benefit the American farmer at the cost of harming the world market (including us consumers). Also, ideas such as capping the max amount of exports are shortsighted. Econ 101: A cap on exports is the same as a cap on imports (by virtue of the balance of trade, etc). That is, it may reduce the cost of grain, but at the price of hurting importers. Government intervention like that will simply shift the economic pressure. What needs to be done is that we need to face the reality that American farming is horribly inefficient, and a deregulation needs to occur. Tariffs on foreign agriculture need to to be lifted and subsidization of domestic agriculture needs to be put to an end. If this means the end for American farming, so be it. Preserving it simply comes at too high a cost.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:11 PM   #27
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What do you mean they can't take it away? They already did at my house...
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:02 PM   #28
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I don't see it as much as an increase in price/value as much as a dollar being worth less.

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What needs to be done is that we need to face the reality that American farming is horribly inefficient, and a deregulation needs to occur.
Deregulation is a great idea. They deregulated the power industry and prices went up and continue to do so. No part of the petroleum industry is regulated and you see how that's been going. When it comes down to it, people can survive without petroleum energy, but how about food?

I think that they need to address the issues you mentioned, but without making it a totally free market. Just IMHO.
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The sex shortage has caused sex prices to go up recently, with no end in sight. As an unmarried 20-year-old, this does not bode well for me.

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