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Old 10-09-2009, 02:39 PM   #21
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I'm a huge, HUGE Obama supporter but this even made me go "huh?".

Maybe removing Bush from office was promoting peace enough to win the price. (ok, now it really will get moved to the debate forum hehehe)

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Old 10-09-2009, 02:42 PM   #22
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I think it's a terrible faux pas. It looks to me like the Nobel committee are trying to give him a helping hand to accomplish whatever they think his agenda might be. If that is true, then it is a degrading politically motivated abuse of a once prestigious award.

Edit: I had missed The Pol's post before I posted, but yeah, this:-

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Supposedly people on the committee were asked, and answered that sometimes they award the prize in the hopes that it will elevate the person to achieve what they have promised. Award it before they do what they say they are going to do, to give them more credibility and a better chance at achieving it.

Whatever that means.
And that is just the wrong way to use the Peace Prize IMO
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:57 PM   #23
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How can BO win the NPP when we(they) attack the moon,whom we've been at peace with for years, totally unprovoked?

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Old 10-09-2009, 02:58 PM   #24
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Sorry, that was a joke. Just like the NPP

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:05 PM   #25
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Obama has talked alot of talk, and if he follows up on his promises THEN I could see a nomination for this award. But to give it to him based on his promises and the fact that he's the first pres. in a long time people were excited about is ludicrus (sp?).

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:29 PM   #26
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Its fine to say he doesn't deserve it, but its a little weird when people talk of giving him the prize is somehow a fall from grace. I mean, do you really think Obama has done less to create peace in the world than the IPCC? Do you even know what the IPCC is? I hardly think a panel on climate control really did create peace (although they did a decent job of promoting environmental issues).

The winner for a Nobel prize for anything is just whoever the committee choses, its not some super scientific process. Just a bunch of people in a room who can give out each prize as they see fit. They clearly saw Obama fit.

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:39 PM   #27
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There were 205 nominees this year. The IPCC didn't win, Obama did. I'm pretty positive that out of the remaining 203, you could pick out another 100 that don't deserve it either and plenty more that an argument could be made FOR earning the peace prize.

Yes, they can pick whoever they want. But the argument here is, the peace prize is well respected award that can have a positive effect on the winners political, business or social standing in this world. It should be awarded with the highest of considerations and not be a popularity vote. When treated like that it artifically impacts the standing of others in this world and degrades the award to the level of the Teen Coice Awards.

I mean OMG Obama is such a hottie! He totally deserves Nobel. Whatev!!!!

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:41 PM   #28
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This need to be taken up on the other playground. Respect those that do not want to see political content in the General Forum, please.


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