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dataz722 05-10-2012 02:17 PM

Knife Sharpening
 
I have a growing collection of knives, mainly kitchen but others as well, and am tired of shipping them out the have them sharpened. I am looking at maybe getting a knife sharpening system.

I do not want to do anything freehand on a whetstone or use an electric sharpener since I have heard many bad things about them. I am looking at both the edge pro apex and the wicked edge system and those both seem really good but are both really damn expensive.

I know there have to be some knife nuts on here so what do you all do for sharpening?

I also need something highly adjustable for blade angle since I have a wide range of knives.

runningweird 05-10-2012 03:01 PM

I'm glad you decided to stop sending your knives away to someone else to sharpen, I don't think I could trust someone else to properly care for my knives. A good steel is something you should consider if you don't already have one, I can completely get behind this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Dick-Multicut-.../dp/B000YQHXU0

If you have a large collection you probably already have one but this one is great.
As far as an electric sharpener goes I can't reccomend one because I personally despise them. I have seen them mar otherwise great knives because of malfunction or misuse. The only proper way to sharpen a good knife is with a stone and a steel or with a grinder and an extremely light touch.

but since I want to answer your question I have a friend that tells me that the Chef’sChoice M130 electric sharpener is the best option if you want to go automated. Its not cheap, $130 I think, but compared to a few knife service jobs it will pay for itself quickly.

I spent years as a butcher/meat cutter and restaurant kitchen pirate so I learned how to steel and sharpen knives properly by hand. It is a skill well worth learning and will save you quite a bit of money over the long term.

Do you have a favorite knife for kitchen work? I absolutely love my Global knives - they hold a great edge.
sorry I couldn't be more helpful

SharonaZamboni 05-10-2012 03:24 PM

I'm planning to get something like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Lansky-4-rod-C...=2UYN3QF0BKZAT

runningweird 05-10-2012 03:32 PM

if anyone wants to go cheap but effective, I would go with one of these http://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Quick-P...663797&sr=1-15

no joke. I sent my mom a good chefs knife a few years back(mostly so when my family visits her I don't have to suffer through using crap knives to cook). She doesn't know how to use a sharpening stone or steel so I sent her this lansky tool. it puts a great edge on knives and is super simple to use.

dataz722 05-10-2012 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runningweird (Post 4074467)
I'm glad you decided to stop sending your knives away to someone else to sharpen, I don't think I could trust someone else to properly care for my knives. A good steel is something you should consider if you don't already have one, I can completely get behind this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Dick-Multicut-.../dp/B000YQHXU0

If you have a large collection you probably already have one but this one is great.
As far as an electric sharpener goes I can't reccomend one because I personally despise them. I have seen them mar otherwise great knives because of malfunction or misuse. The only proper way to sharpen a good knife is with a stone and a steel or with a grinder and an extremely light touch.

but since I want to answer your question I have a friend that tells me that the Chef’sChoice M130 electric sharpener is the best option if you want to go automated. Its not cheap, $130 I think, but compared to a few knife service jobs it will pay for itself quickly.

I spent years as a butcher/meat cutter and restaurant kitchen pirate so I learned how to steel and sharpen knives properly by hand. It is a skill well worth learning and will save you quite a bit of money over the long term.

Do you have a favorite knife for kitchen work? I absolutely love my Global knives - they hold a great edge.
sorry I couldn't be more helpful

Thanks, but I am specifically NOT looking for an electric one.

I have a decent hone. It is the Shun one. It isn't great but gets the job done just fine and right now I don't see a need in purchasing another one.

I have a set of Shuns in addition to some other random pieces and am looking at getting some high qualiy japanese knives in the future, hense the need to angle versatility.

I just don't trust myself with freehand and a stone on my expensive knives. I know it is the best route normally, but I just really can't trust myself yet. That is why I am looking into one of the systems that are out there.

runningweird 05-10-2012 03:55 PM

sorry, spaced that out.

I have been eyeing a shun 8 inch chef's knife for a while but can't justify the cost while blowing money on beer stuff.

any manual pull through/electric sharpener will put an edge on your knives, they aren't the best for your knife though. It sounds like you have some nice knives and it really doesn't take long to learn how to sharpen them properly.

dataz722 05-10-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runningweird (Post 4074698)
sorry, spaced that out.

I have been eyeing a shun 8 inch chef's knife for a while but can't justify the cost while blowing money on beer stuff.

any manual pull through/electric sharpener will put an edge on your knives, they aren't the best for your knife though. It sounds like you have some nice knives and it really doesn't take long to learn how to sharpen them properly.

I love my 8" shun. Just used it this morning before work actually. I am really pissed off that they have all of a sudden stopped their free lifetime sharpening though. That is complete BS.


And just to clarify, by sharpening system I am refering to something along the lines of these.

http://www.edgeproinc.com/

and

http://www.wickededgeusa.com/

runningweird 05-10-2012 04:13 PM

I stand corrected. Hear that INTERNET! I WAS WRONG!

those both look very nice, and are not that much different from a three sided stone and a steel - they just appear to be from the future. looking at them I would probably prefer the wicked edge model if you are set on something like this because it looks more user friendly.

watching the wicked edge demo I noticed that the guy is still doing a lot of work by hand so there is still some skill involved. for that price though i would get a high quality stone, a shaving strop, and another good knife.

medusa1066 05-10-2012 04:18 PM

Tri-Angle Sharpener by Spyderco has good reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Tri-A...6666644&sr=8-2

I use a three stone system by smith's, works just fine. It's really not that difficult to maintain an angle.

dataz722 05-10-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runningweird (Post 4074779)
I stand corrected. Hear that INTERNET! I WAS WRONG!

those both look very nice, and are not that much different from a three sided stone and a steel - they just appear to be from the future. looking at them I would probably prefer the wicked edge model if you are set on something like this because it looks more user friendly.

watching the wicked edge demo I noticed that the guy is still doing a lot of work by hand so there is still some skill involved. for that price though i would get a high quality stone, a shaving strop, and another good knife.

For a while now I have been reading reviews and what not about both systems and people seem to be pretty much split between the two. The both have pretty big pros and cons so I was just looking to see if anyone knew of something along those lines or had any experience with either of them.

The difference between a system like that and 100% by hand is that the system hold and keeps the angle and everything exactly right for you, which is what I don't trust myself with on a stone. There is very little to no learning curve on those two systems at least.



Quote:

Originally Posted by medusa1066 (Post 4074800)
Tri-Angle Sharpener by Spyderco has good reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Tri-A...6666644&sr=8-2

I use a three stone system by smith's, works just fine. It's really not that difficult to maintain an angle.

I have read many great things about the spiderco but unfortunatly I need something that will handle a wider range of angles.


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