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Old 01-14-2011, 12:46 AM   #11
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I drive a '10 JK Wrangler, my second Wrangler. All I recommend is that you spend some time on youtube. I wasn't impressed with the FJ's off-road performance in some of the videos available there.

Excellent idea! I don't really do any recreational off-roading, but our road and driveway is a challenge. We have 18" of powder on the ground right now, for example. I wont be doing any rock crawling or anything, but the usual SUV wouldn't last long.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:38 AM   #12
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I used to own a Land Cruiser and belonged to a club of intense off-roaders. A couple guys in the club owned new FJ's. They said the vehicle was quite capable off road right out of the showroom.

Given a choice between Jeep and Toyota... well, there is no choice really. Toyota

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Old 01-14-2011, 01:45 PM   #13
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kind of like we've done here to learn about brewing, may be you could lurk here a bit to learn some...


I take Wildwest's description, too (tits!) - and I've had no problems with my Toyota ever...

FWIW - many Toyotas are 90% or more US made - while the muscle car of ever - Mustang - is now only 65% U.S.

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Old 01-14-2011, 05:24 PM   #14
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I used to own a Land Cruiser and belonged to a club of intense off-roaders. A couple guys in the club owned new FJ's. They said the vehicle was quite capable off road right out of the showroom.

Given a choice between Jeep and Toyota... well, there is no choice really. Toyota
This was going to be my suggestion. There has to be some kind of off roading club around you somewhere. If you were to go talk to them, maybe you might be able to go for a ride with them to see about the suspension and ride comfort, etc. They'd also be a good source about reliability and repair costs, I'm guessing.
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Old 01-15-2011, 05:26 AM   #15
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I've got a 2010 FJ, and couldn't be happier. This is my fifth Land Cruiser, and honestly only have two complaints: the view out the back is fairly bad, moreso with an non-stock sized tire on the carrier, and the lack of heated seats/mirrors/windshield. Yeah, I'm getting soft in my old age! The styling is polarizing, so you either like it or not. I like it, natch, and appreciate the nod Toyota gave to their heritage of Jeep beating vehicles. Kidding all you Jeep folks! There is at least one Toyota club in Jasper, TN:
SE Toyota Land Cruiser Association.

The interior is roomy, and I like that the interior is waterproofed so you can supposedly hose it out w/out ruining anything. Haven't tried that one though. The HVAC controls are huge and designed that way so they can be operated while wearing gloves. I like the cargo capacity, and it is rated to tow 5000 pounds, not that I'd try that out here in Colorado. I was able to put a full sized two stage snowblower in the back w/out any problems, seats folded down. Gas mileage isn't great as you would expect. I get around 17-18 with mixed driving, but that is with my KM2's. The 2010's got a new engine with around 20 more hp, torque was about even I think, but they are blessed to run on regular fuel. Prior to 2010, premium was recommended.

Jeeps are unique in the market, for new vehicles at least. I won't knock them, but will say that I don't believe there's many 4x4's built better than a Toyota truck. As long as it's properly maintained and doesn't get wrecked, my FJ will probably outlive me. And just for reference, I also have a 1964 Toyota FJ-40 that is older than me by three weeks. Drive them both and see which one you like. They are different trucks built to a different purpose. The FJ is a very capable offroad rig out of the box.

Here's a glamour shot of mine after I installed the sliders and before I upgraded the tires to KM2's:

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Old 01-15-2011, 03:35 PM   #16
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Thanks for the info, Pilot210. I like the styling just fine and was impressed by offroad capability when El Hubbo and I stumbled on a rock crawling event a couple of years ago.

I will just have to bite the bullet and go drive one...which I don't mind...what I mind is having to talk to a car dealer.

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Old 01-15-2011, 04:39 PM   #17
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...while it may run forever on the street, i dont have the same faith in build quality for off road.
I believe this to be true, people who off road their FJs have had frame issues.
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:46 PM   #18
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There's a good Hawaii off-roading video on YouTube that compares the two...

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Old 01-16-2011, 01:19 PM   #19
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Okay, folks with FJ's...I keep hearing about the visibility problem. Can you chime in on your experience over time with changing lanes, backing up and whatnot?

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I like the look of the long jeeps (ie, 4 door sahara).. they look like downsized hummers...

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