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Old 03-08-2008, 05:48 AM   #1
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HOLY CRAP! Why dont more people in Canada brew? Beer is f^cking expensive up there! I couldnt believe the prices when I walked into The Beer Store. I feel your pain guys and Ill be raising a HB to you guys tonight.

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Old 03-08-2008, 05:49 AM   #2
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It's the vice tax. We live in a socialist country. But at least our hospitals are free.

I'm mostly kidding.

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Old 03-08-2008, 06:50 AM   #3
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About the hospitals i assume cause the tax is f'ing outrageous.

My dad had to pay 500 bucks for a back brace while in the hospital.
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Our beer is waaaaayyyyy too expensive. No sh!tting, I paid $20 Canadian (currently about $20.10 US) for a six-pack of Rogue Dead Guy Ale (not worth it, BTW). Given our prices and general lack of craft beer, I really don't understand why more Canadians don't homebrew. They even make it easy with no-boil, wort-in-a-bag kits that you can buy at most wine shops here (they are actually really good!).

I don't know why, but the homebrew culture is dying really quickly here in Canada. It is hard to even find a decent online homebrew retailer in Canada these days (our last good one just folded). At least our dollar is strong and shopping at places like AHBS or Morebeer are reasonable these days.

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About the hospitals i assume cause the tax is f'ing outrageous.

My dad had to pay 500 bucks for a back brace while in the hospital.
The hospitals were the only part I wasn't kidding about. It's nt really a vice tax, and we're not really socialists, bt free health care has saved my life. That is ridiculous though. My condolences.
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Wow, I just realized I came off really touchy there.

But the HB community in Halifax seems to be on the grow. It may be that I'm only finding the community as I do more brewing, but it really seems to be catching on. The LHBS across the street is definitely growing.

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Homebrew on the Island (Vancouver Island) and the Vancouver Isalnd seems fairly strong. The rest of BC sucks.

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It's really strange. Canadians purport to take great pride in their beer, but they're content with Molson/Labatt/Keiths most of the time, and they're content to pay an arm and a leg for it. We don't even have SA or equivalent hocking pretentious-seeming beers on the mass market, unless you count Rickard's, which you shouldn't.

I think the fault lies with the government liquor store monopoly; people only know the small selection available, and thus are content with it and don't push to expand its horizons. The one province without this damaging monopoly, Quebec, makes some of the best beer in North America.

edit: to defend that last point: Unibroue, Dieu du Ciel, Charlevoix, even McAuslan/St-Ambroise.

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HOLY CRAP! Why dont more people in Canada brew? Beer is f^cking expensive up there! I couldnt believe the prices when I walked into The Beer Store. I feel your pain guys and Ill be raising a HB to you guys tonight.
I laugh everytime you hear people argue about whether homebrewing saves money. One trip to the liquor store here, and it's no longer a question, it's the eleventh commandment. I can brew far better beer for significantly less money.

There are so many problems up here when it comes to beer. A lack of a craft brewing culture certainly doesn't help. People just have no idea what's out there, outside of us who go looking. The guy at Garrison wins Canadian beer of the year, and I don't even remember seeing a minor news story about it.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:22 PM   #10
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The one province without this damaging monopoly, Quebec, makes some of the best beer in North America.[/I]
Wrong. The SAQ is horrible: http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...c-283584c4d2c1
They have a total of about 80 beers that they carry, but you're lucky to find more than 20 of them in the same store. Luckily, I've found a couple sweet corner stores that carry huge selection of imports and local micros.
More and more people are coming to like good beer. The only problem is the price. Example, $70 for a 24-pack of imported beer seems steep for a lot of people, even though the cheapest local beer can be sold is $22.34 (for normal) and something like $20.59 (for the light stuff) (plus the bottle deposit). I just hope more and more people will start homebrewing and stop buying the normal Bud and Molson, they might feel a drop in sales and decide to pressure the government into lowering the taxes on alcohol. I heard recently from a report that 80% of the price of hard liquor is taxes. Probably about 30-40% of the price of beer is taxes.

Oh and since I feel in a rant-y mood. You know what's stupid about beer in Quebec/French: the names.

Here is the names of styles that exist in French:

Blanche (Wheat)
Blonde (you guessed it, Blond)
Doré (Golden)
Cuivré (Amber)
Rousse (Red)
Brune (Brown)
Noire (Black).

That's all the styles that exist in French. They go on the color! Add to that that most of the time there is no distinction between ales and lagers...

Now that might seem fine, but here are a few examples where it sucks:

-Blonde: You can compare a Pilsner, which is light and crisp, to a light colored IPA, which is intensely bitter, and they're called the same thing in French. Someone might stumble on an IPA and decide to try it simply because the name is "Blonde". When they try it and realize how bitter it is, they are likely to never try a Blonde again if they don't like the bitterness.

-Noire: This style basically anything in the Stout style, which is fine, but then you add Schwarzbier, which is completely different. Heck, Unibroue's Trois Pistoles is in this category, but tastes NOTHING like a Stout.

-Brune: This style includes stuff like English Brown Ales, but it can also include things like Bocks. An english ale and a german sweet lager. Same name...

-Rousse: You could include stuff like a red ESB, which is bitter, to something like an Irish Red ale...

-Doré: You basically include in this style pale ales, like Boddington's, and a lighter colored Bitter. Heck, Pilsner Urquell would probably be in this style considering it is a darkish pilsner.

End of rant...
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