The Great Bottle Opener Giveaway

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Community > General Chit Chat > I hate flu shots!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-04-2012, 05:44 AM   #71
dfc
Audio Engineer/Instructor
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
dfc's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 3,038
Liked 196 Times on 166 Posts
Likes Given: 121

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bottlebomber View Post
I wonder why the FDA won't support herbal remedies, when extracts can be easily standardized and clinical testing shouldn't be any different than testing pharmaceuticals... Not a conspiracy theory, just curious. When I have a sore throat I crush a massive amount of garlic on some toast and the symptoms are typically gone within 12-24 hours. Herbs are highly affective.
There's no money in it. If you can synthesize herbs and patent them the FDA will support it.
__________________

Kegged: Beer
Bottled: Beer, Beer, Beer, Beer, Beer, Beer.
Primary: Beer
Secondary: Beer

How to brew extract (with pictures!)

How to brew extract (Video)

Simple bottling process

dfc is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:01 AM   #72
headbanger
Fast Loud Death
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
headbanger's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Hill, KY
Posts: 2,438
Liked 536 Times on 359 Posts
Likes Given: 1138

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dfc View Post
There's no money in it. If you can synthesize herbs and patent them the FDA will support it.
Man I gotta tell ya.. i been driving around in my van with old scoob and we been having a real good time... made about 8K this month, just from a few herbs that were grown locally, picked them up at the farmer's market dight down the way
__________________
headbanger is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:21 AM   #73
kroach01
Junior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NYC, NY
Posts: 347
Liked 25 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 35

Default

Deleted!

__________________
kroach01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:25 AM   #74
kroach01
Junior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NYC, NY
Posts: 347
Liked 25 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 35

Default

Deleted

__________________
kroach01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:28 AM   #75
kroach01
Junior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NYC, NY
Posts: 347
Liked 25 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 35

Default

Deleted. Why bother..

__________________
kroach01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:29 AM   #76
kroach01
Junior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NYC, NY
Posts: 347
Liked 25 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 35

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dfc

Scare tactics. That's all that line of thinking is.
Actually, it's true. HIV is extremely volatile and won't survive long outside a bodily fluid.
__________________
kroach01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:37 AM   #77
bottlebomber
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: ukiah, CA
Posts: 14,246
Liked 2640 Times on 2068 Posts
Likes Given: 290

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kroach01
Wow the amount of BS assertions in here is completely mind boggling and comical. Does anyone making these claims have a degree in anything medical related?

We have conspiracy nuts, thimersol nuts (it's not in most shots anymore and if it is its minimal, not to mention no real scientifically accepted experiments ever suggested this stabilizer was even remotely toxic), people saying vitamin d actually prevents the flu, flu shots cause serious immune reactions that last decades, flu shots have the worst reactions (tetanus is much more painful for days) and everything in between. All BS and without scientific or medical merit.

As someone about to get their medical degree, I have a pretty good understanding of medical facts and BS with no evidentiary or physiological basis. And most of this is just that.

The flu mutates rapidly, and the season is autumn. The shot doesn't cure the flu for the former reason, and may not even provide immunity if the strain mutates after the vaccine was developed. And many people think they have the flu when in reality there are millions of variations of adenoviruses, rhino viruses etc etc.

If you don't want it fine. But please don't spread BS unless you speak from a medical background or of scientifically accepted studies... It does more harm to public health than good.

This upsets me because I deal with parents all the time who won't vaccinate their kids due to Internet conspiracies. Then they get the mumps or polio or rubella or measles or diphtheria.
Well you got almost everything wrong, rant master. I'm the only person I believe who mentioned ThimerosAL, but I'm far from a nut. In fact nobody in here has really expressed any exaggerated viewpoints at all. Much of what has been expressed has been a matter of opinion and presented as such. It was said that the FLU can leave lasting effects not the vaccine. One person in here is an electrical engineer who develops medical equipment. And what might your credentials be good sir?
__________________
bottlebomber is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:54 AM   #78
kroach01
Junior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NYC, NY
Posts: 347
Liked 25 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 35

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bottlebomber
Well you got almost everything wrong, rant master. I'm the only person I believe who mentioned ThimerosAL, but I'm far from a nut. In fact nobody in here has really expressed any exaggerated viewpoints at all. Much of what has been expressed has been a matter of opinion and presented as such. It was said that the FLU can leave lasting effects not the vaccine. One person in here is an electrical engineer who develops medical equipment. And what might your credentials be good sir?
Soon to be MD and deal with patients every day in a major NYC hospital. I work 80++ hours a week there.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vsd...osal_outcomes/
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac...fety/UCM096228
http://vaccinesafety.ecbt.org/ecbt/d...ism_1_8_08.pdf
http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...3/604.abstract
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article....ticleid=197365
http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/arti...ticleid=482540
__________________
kroach01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 06:57 AM   #79
bottlebomber
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: ukiah, CA
Posts: 14,246
Liked 2640 Times on 2068 Posts
Likes Given: 290

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kroach01
Soon to be MD.
So can we just put you down as a Med student for now then? After all, it looks like you've just finished Step 1.

Edit: Wow, you edited your post. Funny that you say you work 80++ hours a week in a NYC hospital, but in your intro thread dated 7/25 you claim to be living in Tucson, but are moving to Brooklyn in a "few weeks". Just how many of these 80++ hour weeks have you worked? And how would any number of them give you any authority on the subject beyond doing Internet searches, the same as anyone else can do?
__________________
bottlebomber is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2012, 07:06 AM   #80
kroach01
Junior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NYC, NY
Posts: 347
Liked 25 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 35

Default

Deleted, useless convo

Nothing in my edit changed my point, it just added to my credentials to speak on the matter.
Nor have I been inconsistent or not truthful.

But hey, believe what you want if it makes you feel safe and happy.

__________________
kroach01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
i hate snow friarjohn General Chit Chat 6 12-27-2009 02:01 PM
Pets and why we hate them... alcibiades General Chit Chat 76 12-10-2009 07:48 PM
I hate applications... Dr_Deathweed General Chit Chat 6 07-29-2009 02:05 AM
Explaining the moon shots to SWMBO McCall St. Brewer General Chit Chat 22 07-21-2009 03:05 PM
I Hate Computers!!! Decojuicer General Chit Chat 11 04-16-2009 08:07 PM