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Old 04-21-2008, 11:35 AM   #1
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H.R. 5843, an "Act to Remove Federal Penalties for Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults," has been inroduced in the House of Representatives by Representatives Barney Frank and Ron Paul.

Would be very interesting to see a good valid arguement against this. But we all know where this is going.

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H.R. 5843, an "Act to Remove Federal Penalties for Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults," has been inroduced in the House of Representatives by Representatives Barney Frank and Ron Paul.

Would be very interesting to see a good valid arguement against this. But we all know where this is going.
Imagine the tax possibilities.....

EDIT: If Marijuana was legal
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Imagine the tax possibilities.....

EDIT: If Marijuana was legal

You know I was talking to a friend about this last night. leagilizing and taxing the crap out of pot could empty out our over crowded prisions of some non-violent criminals, and provide enough tax income to.... Oh I dont know.... Better fund our schools? Lower the personal income tax? Expand the immigration and naturilization service so it dosn't take someone 12 years to become a citizen leagaly? Provide healthcare to US citizens?
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I just love that it's being spondered by BARNEY FREAKIN' FRANK and RON FREAKIN' PAUL. They don't get much more diametrically opposed that those two!

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Better fund our schools?
Our schools are funded just fine, they just don't know how to use it properly. We throw more and more money on schools every year and kids continue to do poorly. The Unions answer is MORE MONEY.

It's BS. In Europe, the money follows the student, so schools need to be competitive or the money leaves as goes the students.

Schools don't need more money, they just need to get rid of the NEA so incompetent teachers can be sacked and boated administrations can be trimmed.
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While I like the idea of legalization and taxation - we've seen what they've done to tobacco.

Even if the government would legalize and tax the crap out of it - people would still find the cheaper alternative. The way the government would work, it would cost $45 a joint after taxes and surcharges and fees. Meanwhile, your local dealer can probably sell you a half Z for that price.

Of course, once the gov't sets a price, the dealers will probably up their prices too making it too expensive to smoke.

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jezter thats a chance Im willing to take!
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jezter thats a chance Im willing to take!
I see both sides of this one. Yes, I would like it to be legal so that I didn't have to meet someone at 2am in a dark parking lot and be fearful of the cops. I would like to take a drug test for work and not worry about pot being caught and me losing my job.

However, I'm also not looking forward to paying ungodly expensive rates for what really is a low class drug. I like smoke, it's good stuff - but if they end up making it so expensive that the people who currently smoke it can't afford it (let's just say it - in general it's the lower-middle class to poverty level that are the hefty percentage of smokers) - it isn't going to do any good.

I think that legalizing it will allow people like you, who CAN afford it, to smoke a few times - you'll likely get bored of it once it's legal and you'll stop. Meanwhile, your less than decent part of humanity will still be breaking into cars and houses to steal CDs and DVDs and selling them for drugs - the only difference is where they get them.

For legal marijuana to have a net positive effect, it needs to be easily accessible to the masses at a price that doesn't cause people to turn to drastic measures (steal, stop feeding their families) to support their smoking habit.
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I'd like to see what a bottle of booze cost during prohibition. I would think cost will be dependant on supply and demand just like everything else.

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A lot would depend on HOW marijuana was legalized - totally free market, or got-to-some-government-agency-to-pick-it-up legalized. Reasonably unregulated, I bet you'd see the market develop like the markets for tobacco or liquor, where you've got both the ultra-cheap, ultra-nasty stuff and really high-end product.

You've got to figure, too, that SOMEONE's making a huge profit on pot sales right now, probably not the street dealer but someone's making a lot of money. You figure there's a huge premium to be had because of the punishment if arrested and because of the artificial scarcity.

What the NEED to do is include it in the farm bill - how much would it help poor farmers up here in New England to be able to LEGALLY grow some pot on the side?

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