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Hopfan 01-11-2007 03:53 AM

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I know I've seen a few posts & pics of brewers that are also into Muscle Cars. Just curious as to how many of us there are out there. I met a local here who was a master welder and we started talking cars. I was amazed at the amount of pure muscle that was within a 10 mile radius of me that I didn't know about.

I'm currently restoring a 67 Firebird for my oldest (He's only 10, but this car is a basket case so it will be at least 4-5 years before it's road ready) I have most of the major parts in good shape, just need to install a new floor, all the front end sheet metal, engine, trans & set up the rear back to stock. I was hoping to get a 326 for it as that was what it was built with, but they seem to be very precious to the LeMans rebuilders. I hate to go with the 400 or 455 as it's my son and I don't want him to have the temptation, but if I have to, I'll detune it and drop the rear a bit to keep him out of trouble. I have all the original interior bits, including a working radio (the real stereo system will be buried beneath the skin by my nephew who does that stuff for a living). My son is busily wire wheeling the suspension parts in prep for powder coating and come Spring, I think we'll pull the body and do the same to the rest of the frame.

Here's some pics of the before. It looks scary, but I'm enjoying the hell out of getting my hands back into a classic.

So how about it? Let's hear about the rest of the brutes out there.

SwAMi75 01-11-2007 04:02 AM

Very nice! I love old cars, but have none of the necessary resources to work on one. It's really cool that you and your son can work on it together. I know I would have been plenty motivated to invest some sweat equity into a ride like that if I knew it would be mine to drive in a few years! I'm a fan of the 60's Pontiacs. The only way it could be cooler is if it was a Mopar. :D

Isn't a 326 just a small bore Olds/Pontiac 350? That might be an option. I mention that because it would be way too obvious to recommend a mild Chevy small block crate motor. :D

Also, that thing looks damn good......I doubt it has spent much time in your neck of the woods! Was it a southern car?

Spyk'd 01-11-2007 04:14 AM

I love to watch this kind of restoration. I once restored a '68 Honda 160 motorcycle. I loved to ride it around and watch all the "WTF is THAT?!!!" looks I'd get from people.


Speaking of restoration Hopfan, is that Syd Barrett as your avatar?

:drunk:




I love his brand of stream of consciousness, gumble.

:cross:

Hippie 01-11-2007 04:19 AM

I love Musclecars, Esp. Mopar:rockin:

That is definately a hobby I want to get back into when money is flowing freely. When I was younger, I had a 69 Charger lined up, but couldn't get anyone to cosign for the 2 grand (What a crime!!!), and I owned a 70 GS with a 455 for a week till my parents freaked and forced me to return it (living at their house) :mad:
Someday soon, I'll be back at it, and my insurance will rise accordingly

"There is no substitute for displacement"

Hopfan 01-11-2007 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SwAMi75
Very nice! I love old cars, but have none of the necessary resources to work on one. It's really cool that you and your son can work on it together. I know I would have been plenty motivated to invest some sweat equity into a ride like that if I knew it would be mine to drive in a few years! I'm a fan of the 60's Pontiacs. The only way it could be cooler is if it was a Mopar. :D

Isn't a 326 just a small bore Olds/Pontiac 350? That might be an option. I mention that because it would be way too obvious to recommend a mild Chevy small block crate motor. :D

Also, that thing looks damn good......I doubt it has spent much time in your neck of the woods! Was it a southern car?

Well, I thought about putting a Targetmaster 350 in it and it would definitely be loads cheaper, but I just can't bring myself to do it. And yes, it began it's life in Mississippi and "ended" it in Virginia. When I pulled the interior, I even found a few of the old style pull tops. you know, the ones that would cut the thumbs to shreds of the heavy beer drinkers and that we all made into necklaces as kids.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyk'd
Speaking of restoration Hopfan, is that Syd Barrett as your avatar?

:drunk:

I love his brand of stream of consciousness, gumble.

Yes it is Syd. His music & ideology pretty much sum up my youth.

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Originally Posted by Hippie
I love Musclecars, Esp. Mopar:rockin:

"There is no substitute for displacement"

I'm a fan of any of the classics. I have owned a 70 Mustang Grande, a 72 Chevelle SS, a 70 Nova SS, and a 74 Nova that was my street car and still did 14.02 in the quarter. My first car was to be a 69 Challenger that my grandfather owned, but the day I turned 14, I was informed that it was rear ended and totalled. I still cry about that.

As far as displacement, when I was into it, there were relatively few performance parts for the Chevy Rat motors, so I tended to stay small block. And now that I'm going to be giving the keys to my son one day, I think I'll stay small block. To this day, I can't believe that I lived through those years. I truly did not learn to "really drive" until I was about 23. Although, I would trust my oldest more than the little guy. he's 6 and already has his heart set on a 70 Chevelle that I found. I told him that he better plan on something more like a bubble surrounded by rubber wrapped in padding. To say he's a bit impulsive and competitive is a huge understatement.

SwAMi75 01-11-2007 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie
"There is no substitute for displacement"

I thought it was:

"There's no replacement for displacement." ;)

I'm dismayed at the prices of muscle cars these days. When my dad and i were looking for my first vehicle, I could have had a beautiful '67 Roadrunner w/883 for $3,000. Or, a '71 El Camino 454SS with 8 miles on the motor for about $2,700. Both were outstanding cars, inside and out. I couldn't touch either one for 5 times that now. Of course it just dawned on me that that was 15 years ago......

johnsma22 01-11-2007 05:57 AM

I love my Pontiac. I have a 76 T/A that I bought in 1987 when I was in the USAF. It was a real basket case when I got it, but I have guided her through a complete restoration over the last 12 years. 400ci w/ Edelbrock aluminum heads in it now, but I am in the process of building up a 505 IAII (aftermarket Pontiac block) for it over the winter. I have a brand new Moser 12 bolt rear end (3.73 gears) and a Tremec TKO-600 5 speed trans ready to be installed when the motor is done.

If you don't already know, there is a great supplier of Pontiac parts called Performance Years. The link is to the forums. You can get to the online store from there. I have learned more in the last year about Pontiac's from the forum than I ever thought was possible. You should check them out. Some very knowledgeable and helpful people there. Not unlike here!

You definitely want to keep that bad boy Pontiac powered! Don't let anyone convince you to put a crate engine in that thing to save a buck! That is of course unless it is a crate motor from Here or Here.

You could keep it Poncho and put a Pontiac 350 in it. Easy to find and inexpensive. They can make good power but still be easy on a new driver. The classifieds on the PY board that I linked to are packed with goodies for every Pontiac ever made. I'll bet you could find a 326 if you were so inclined.

Best of luck to you on your project. These will be precious years you will have with your son. You will be building a lot more than just a car, but my guess is that you probably already know that. My oldest is only 4, but I am already planning to restore a 66 GTO hardtop with him that I have been holding on to and have in storage. I'll probably wait until he's around 10 as well.

John

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johnsma22 01-11-2007 05:59 AM

Two more! Sorry, I can't help myself! :ban:

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Brewtopia 01-11-2007 07:05 AM

I too love these old muscle cars but alas, living in a condo in the city, I have no place to park or work on a car anymore. I walk to work and SWMBO drives her Miata. In high school I drove a 1964 Chevy Impala SS and shortly after graduation, traded it to a guy for a '72 GTO. I'd love to have those cars today.

merc 01-11-2007 07:38 AM

I miss the muscle cars...Living on a base, I can't have all of the toys I want.

My brother had a 69 Impala SS 396/4 spd.
My brother-in-law had a 69 Chevelle Malibu originally a 307/TH350 wound up a 396/M-22. They're 14 years older than me, so the had the big block stuff in the 70's when I was a rug-rat.
My Second vehicle was a 64 Mercury Comet Cyclone 289/4Spd. I miss that thing. Definately didn't see another coming at you like you did w/Mustangs and Camaros.

Now, I've gone the cheapskate route and have a 61 VW Baja Bug.


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