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bulletproof4age 05-15-2009 03:23 PM

Home Builders - Question
 
Is this normal SOP for home builders?

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Last year, I wondered why for 4 days I was chiseling out cement from my small front yard in my Townhouse. A truly aggravating experience. Dug down 1 foot to plant some new shrubs and hit cement. Some areas were 1 foot thick.

After watching them work on the row next to me I see why.

Is this worth complaining about?

bulletproof4age 05-15-2009 03:24 PM

BTW...this was after the cement truck left. They had finished pouring, but the guy obviously loaded too much into the hopper and just poured it over the fill dirt.

deepsouth 05-15-2009 03:25 PM

it's worth complaining about, but will get you nowhere.

my solution was to hire someone to landscape and let them deal with the concrete.

johnnyc 05-15-2009 03:57 PM

I ran into the same problem at my townhouse. I have a little inside knowledge as I worked for a home builder at one time (In IT not in the field). Basically they use whatever they have to bring the yard up level. Its sometimes called hardpan. When I tried to replant my backyard I found an old stump, chunks of concrete, even a piece of siding. I ended up adding about 1000lbs of nice dark dirt and a tiller to break up the hard packed red clay we have down here in GA. After sodding the yard I had the nicest grass in the community, helped me sell the house :)

bulletproof4age 05-15-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyc (Post 1325836)
I ran into the same problem at my townhouse. I have a little inside knowledge as I worked for a home builder at one time (In IT not in the field). Basically they use whatever they have to bring the yard up level. Its sometimes called hardpan. When I tried to replant my backyard I found an old stump, chunks of concrete, even a piece of siding. I ended up adding about 1000lbs of nice dark dirt and a tiller to break up the hard packed red clay we have down here in GA. After sodding the yard I had the nicest grass in the community, helped me sell the house :)

Yeah, that's pretty much what I did last year. Made a huge difference. Before my front yard was basically a giant potted plant.

menschmaschine 05-15-2009 04:16 PM

It's standard for concrete trucks to empty small excesses of concrete and wash out their shoots, pump truck, etc. before returning to the plant. But this is what a "WASH OUT" is for. The builder or developer (general contractor is ultimately responsible) should have had a designated location for concrete wash out. Some states/municipalities require it. It would have silt fence around 3 sides and labeled with signage. It's definitely worth complaining about. They screwed up by allowing the concrete guy to do his wash-out anywhere he pleased. They should come back and dig it up and re-landscape the area.

wildwest450 05-15-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by menschmaschine (Post 1325884)
It's standard for concrete trucks to empty small excesses of concrete and wash out their shoots, pump truck, etc. before returning to the plant. But this is what a "WASH OUT" is for. The builder or developer (general contractor is ultimately responsible) should have had a designated location for concrete wash out. Some states/municipalities require it. It would have silt fence around 3 sides and labeled with signage. It's definitely worth complaining about. They screwed up by allowing the concrete guy to do his wash-out anywhere he pleased. They should come back and dig it up and re-landscape the area.

+1, It is very easy to break up into small pieces the next day, and dispose of. If you let it sit, not so easy.

Apollo 05-15-2009 05:36 PM

I ran into this in my back yard after my house was built. From what I've heard from neighbors and what not it's a very common thing. Thankfully the concrete in my yard was only about 5" thick max and was easy to break up. The garbage can was very heavy to roll to the curb that week.

abonzer 05-16-2009 12:44 PM

It is normal practice for the pump and/or concrete truck to wash out at the location the concrete was poured, but the contractor who poured the concrete should have removed these "clumps" when they were done working. Furthermore, I can't believe the landscaper didn't remove them before seeding or sodding. Seems like a bunch of contractors who don't give a ****.

double_e5 05-16-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by abonzer (Post 1327625)
Seems like a bunch of contractors who don't give a ****.

And this is something new?


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