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Old 04-23-2007, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default Good read....Pro-gun article ....Nugent

I dont know how you all feel, but Uncle Ted couldnt be more right IMO.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/19/com...rss_topstories

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Old 04-23-2007, 02:06 PM   #2
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I've read lots of stuff by him, he's a very eloquent speaker (maybe it's because he doesn't drink?)

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Old 04-23-2007, 02:26 PM   #3
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I admit, although he does have some very strong and valid points, he's got a very biased writing style. I'm not saying I disagree, just that when people say things like "Already spineless gun control advocates are squawking like chickens with their tiny-brained heads chopped off" tends to make people not take him seriously.

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Ted Nugent is my Hero!!!

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Old 04-23-2007, 02:52 PM   #5
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Though I happen to agree with Mr. Nugent, the fact of the matter is that neither side should be using these extremely rare and heinous (and thus, laden with way too much emotional baggage to be an unbiased basis upon which to craft policy) instances of mass murder to further their particular political position. I find it unconscionable that everyone from gun control advocates to second amendment advocates to anti-atheist idiots (see Dinesh D'Souza) seized upon our school's tragedy as a way to make "political hay", as Nugent says. And while I think Ted is more "right" than the gun controllers on this particular issue, it doesn't make him any better for using the tragedy as a "told you so" springboard. The fact is, bad stuff happens. And when bad stuff happens, people unfortunately use it to confirm their prior assertions.

For a better look at this issue, see this...

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It used to be that a shocking act of gun violence would invariably elicit a chorus of demands for tighter gun control laws. How things have changed. Now an episode like that invariably elicits a chorus of demands for tighter gun control laws and a chorus of demands for looser gun control laws. What the reactions demonstrate is that no matter what happens, people are very good at finding confirmation for what they already think.
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Old 04-23-2007, 03:46 PM   #6
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The only thing that people need to know about the right to bear arms and carrying a concealed firearm is that it is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six!

Just ask the scumbag that grabbed my wife from behind a parked car with a broken wine bottle. We were on our way back to our car in a parking garage after dinner in the city when this guy grabbed my wife from behind and held the broken bottle to her neck.

I didn't have any time to think about it, I just pulled my gun and shot the guy in the abdomen and promptly urinated in my pants. I'll never forget that moment as long as I live! My wife and I sat on the floor holding each other and crying as the guy kept screaming "why did you shoot me?". I kept screaming back at him "because you were going to cut my wife's throat!". He then started begging me to help him, which I did. I took off my shirt and used it to apply pressure to the wound to try and stop the bleeding. Finally, after what seemed like an eternity, the cops arrived and had him taken to the hospital and arrested me, urine soaked pants and all!

I was jailed, bailed out and indicted for assault with a deadly weapon! A friend who is an attorney offered to defend me for free, but it never came to that. The district attorney decided to drop the charges. The guy who I shot recovered from his injuries, and because he had quite a lengthy criminal record, was sentenced to three years for his actions that night.

If I had it to do over again the only thing I would do differently would be to shoot him in the head so I wouldn't have to stand there and listen to him tell the cops and EMT's that I SHOT HIM FOR NO REASON!!!!

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Though I happen to agree with Mr. Nugent, the fact of the matter is that neither side should be using these extremely rare and heinous (and thus, laden with way too much emotional baggage to be an unbiased basis upon which to craft policy) instances of mass murder to further their particular political position. I find it unconscionable that everyone from gun control advocates to second amendment advocates to anti-atheist idiots (see Dinesh D'Souza) seized upon our school's tragedy as a way to make "political hay", as Nugent says. And while I think Ted is more "right" than the gun controllers on this particular issue, it doesn't make him any better for using the tragedy as a "told you so" springboard. The fact is, bad stuff happens. And when bad stuff happens, people unfortunately use it to confirm their prior assertions.

For a better look at this issue, see this...
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The only thing that people need to know about the right to bear arms and carrying a concealed firearm is that it is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six!

Just ask the scumbag that grabbed my wife from behind a parked car with a broken wine bottle. We were on our way back to our car in a parking garage after dinner in the city when this guy grabbed my wife from behind and held the broken bottle to her neck.

I didn't have any time to think about it, I just pulled my gun and shot the guy in the abdomen and promptly urinated in my pants. I'll never forget that moment as long as I live! My wife and I sat on the floor holding each other and crying as the guy kept screaming "why did you shoot me?". I kept screaming back at him "because you were going to cut my wife's throat!". He then started begging me to help him, which I did. I took off my shirt and used it to apply pressure to the wound to try and stop the bleeding. Finally, after what seemed like an eternity, the cops arrived and had him taken to the hospital and arrested me, urine soaked pants and all!

I was jailed, bailed out and indicted for assault with a deadly weapon! A friend who is an attorney offered to defend me for free, but it never came to that. The district attorney decided to drop the charges. The guy who I shot recovered from his injuries, and because he had quite a lengthy criminal record, was sentenced to three years for his actions that night.

If I had it to do over again the only thing I would do differently would be to shoot him in the head so I wouldn't have to stand there and listen to him tell the cops and EMT's that I SHOT HIM FOR NO REASON!!!!

I hope me, nor anybody else has to be in that situation, or a similar situation. If I am, you better bet Im shooting to kill for that reason.Then there is only one side to the story, and you dont end up getting sued for his injuries.

Sorry you went through that experience, but good for you for packing and using it properly.
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I was sued in civil court by this 'gentleman' and for awhile I thought I might actually lose the case. That is until, inexplicably, the judge threw it out the case! Fortunately, none of this cost me a penny because my attorney friend was willing to defend me for free. If that hadn't been the case it easily could have cost me in excess of $10K to defend myself for saving my wife from a slit throat! It would have been the best $10K that I ever spent if I had to.

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I love the renewed anti-gun sentiment that occurs in the US every time some idiot does something senseless, stupid, and deadly with a firearm. Certainly it cannot be the fault of the idiot who made insane decisions. No, most certainly we should blame the inanimate object he held while committing his violent act.

The general public has become so "politically correct" as to view everyone as a victim, including the perpetrators of heinous crimes. There should be a law against that, but I'm sure that idea isn't "politically correct" enough to pass legislation. However, we ALREADY HAVE laws intended to keep guns out of the hands of unsupervised children, criminals, and the insane. Some argue those laws are too much. I don't mind them except that they set a precedent for more laws that may, one day, keep guns out of my sane and capable hands.

Cho Seung Hui bought his guns illegally, yet some Americans cry for more gun control laws. How would that have stopped this madman? The enforcement of existing laws failed us when he was allowed to buy guns in the first place. Let's examine the existing laws and properly enforce them before hastily creating more policies in the wake of a disaster.

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