Glock & gun guys: Need some help

**nukinfuts29** · 01-17-2012, 02:56 AM

I can't stand the people on forums like Glock Talk, so I'm asking here cause I know a lot of you lunatics are bullet heads like me.

My most-carried off duty weapon is my Glock 19, and it has been rolling around in the safe in my trunk for like 3 months. There is some rust that appears to be surface only that has shown up on my rear night sight, and nowhere else. Slightly on the slide under the sight, but up against it so I know it hasn't spread around. The tenifer protects the slide anyway. Not sure WHY it showed up, this gun has seen more abuse, salt water, rounds, drops, cold, hot and anything else you name then any gun I have ever personally laid hands on. I have put over 50,000 rounds through it personally and have let others use it for practice more times then I can count.

The sight is a Heini straight 8 night sight, not the stock one. I want to get the rust off, but here is my hangup: I do not want to take off the finish of the night sight. I polished my slide (less than 0.10 so I know the tenifer is in tact) on the sides and front but purposley left the top black and the sights black. This was for two reasons, first it keeps the sun from reflecting off the polish into my eyes and two it keeps me from having to remove the strip of skate tape on the slide which is a PITA just to put a new one on.

If I HAVE to take the finish off I will, but I don't want too. Here are a few pics, please excuse my extremely dirty and dull slide. After I take twenty seconds with some mothers polish it shines like a wet super model on Florida's sunniest beach.

headbanger · 01-17-2012, 12:40 PM

Looks like the finish is already gone on the left side. You'll probably have to take the sight off, strip it down and re-finish. Either way I don't see a way around getting the rust off without removing the finish.

**Pennsyltucky** · 01-17-2012, 01:02 PM

The fact that it is rusting means the finish has been compromised. If you want a cheap and easy, quick and dirty combat pistol finish fix... I would sand the surface rust off (removing the sight would be ideal to get to everything) with emory paper, clean it with non-chlorinated brake cleaner, let it dry then give it a coat of "rust reformer." If you wanted you could add something as a finish... matte black paint, but rust reformer leaves a dull, dark finish.

The more intensive project would be to re-blue, parkerize or durakote/ cerakote, etc... some are DIY, some should be done by a gunsmith.

RustOleum.com

**nukinfuts29** · 01-17-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by headbanger

Looks like the finish is already gone on the left side. You'll probably have to take the sight off, strip it down and re-finish. Either way I don't see a way around getting the rust off without removing the finish.

In person it doesn't seem to be

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Originally Posted by Pennsyltucky

The fact that it is rusting means the finish has been compromised. If you want a cheap and easy, quick and dirty combat pistol finish fix... I would sand the surface rust off (removing the sight would be ideal to get to everything) with emory paper, clean it with non-chlorinated brake cleaner, let it dry then give it a coat of "rust reformer." If you wanted you could add something as a finish... matte black paint, but rust reformer leaves a dull, dark finish.

The more intensive project would be to re-blue, parkerize or durakote/ cerakote, etc... some are DIY, some should be done by a gunsmith.

RustOleum.com

I'm going to take some of the CLP I have today and try to soak it for a few minutes and wipe it off. If that doesn't work I may have to refinish it. The main reason to try and avoid that is I have zero clue how to remove the tridium insert, and don't want to ruin an expensive night sight by painting over it.

Now off to Google to figure out how to get it off the slide.

pernox · 01-17-2012, 01:32 PM

You say "off duty weapon" - assuming you're a cop? Is this something your armorer could help you out with? I bet a couple homebrews would get the ball rolling.

I wouldn't try any permanent solution to the problem without getting that sight out of there first. If you can see the rust there, there's almost assuredly some where you can't see it, too.

As an aside, you must be a "corrosive sweat" kinda guy. Some are, some aren't - I have to keep all the steel on carry guns clean and oiled every other day to prevent corrosion in the warm seasons.

**Airborneguy** · 01-17-2012, 01:39 PM

Aren't you a bounty hunter?

pernox · 01-17-2012, 01:40 PM

BTW - the sights should push out left to right (from "in use" position) IIRC and you can use an old .22 case to protect your metal if it comes to putting the slide in a vise and drifting it out with a steel punch.

Patrick604 · 01-17-2012, 02:05 PM

Do NOT remove the sight if you do not have the tool to push it back on. And do NOT listen to anyone who tells you that you can put it back on with a punch, you will screw the heck out of the dovetail.

If you just want to clean it up a bit, use some Hoppes solvent and scrub the heck out of it with a bronze bore beush. This will leave some bronze residue that you will have to wipe off with a cloth if it bothers you.

The best way would be to remove the sight, use some sandpaper for metal, and get it down to the bare metal. The you can hit it with some spray and bake finish from brownells, small tape patches over the glass vials. Very detailed work there, then push the sight back on with a sight pusher tool. Good as new.

Personally, on a Glock, I would just scrub the heck out of it and wipe it down with oil every now and then to keep it from getting worse.

TxBrew · 01-17-2012, 02:07 PM

There's a new Glock site.

GlockForum.com

Check it out. They are running a Glock 22 contest.

**nukinfuts29** · 01-17-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pernox

You say "off duty weapon" - assuming you're a cop? Is this something your armorer could help you out with? I bet a couple homebrews would get the ball rolling.

I wouldn't try any permanent solution to the problem without getting that sight out of there first. If you can see the rust there, there's almost assuredly some where you can't see it, too.

As an aside, you must be a "corrosive sweat" kinda guy. Some are, some aren't - I have to keep all the steel on carry guns clean and oiled every other day to prevent corrosion in the warm seasons.

Not a cop, but not far off. Sorry if that's vague hah. It's not my sweat, I have carried it 24/7 for years. I imagine it's a combination of outdoor exposure and impact from bouncing around in that safe these past few months.

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Originally Posted by Airborneguy

Aren't you a bounty hunter?

I used to be a recovery agent. Kind of the same thing, but government contracted. I still do it for immigration every few months.

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Originally Posted by Patrick604

Do NOT remove the sight if you do not have the tool to push it back on. And do NOT listen to anyone who tells you that you can put it back on with a punch, you will screw the heck out of the dovetail.

If you just want to clean it up a bit, use some Hoppes solvent and scrub the heck out of it with a bronze bore beush. This will leave some bronze residue that you will have to wipe off with a cloth if it bothers you.

The best way would be to remove the sight, use some sandpaper for metal, and get it down to the bare metal. The you can hit it with some spray and bake finish from brownells, small tape patches over the glass vials. Very detailed work there, then push the sight back on with a sight pusher tool. Good as new.

Personally, on a Glock, I would just scrub the heck out of it and wipe it down with oil every now and then to keep it from getting worse.

That's basically what Google got me too. I'm thinking the CLP will take care of it, we will find out. I won't take it off because clearly you need the tool and I wouldn't disrespect my glock with a punch.

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Originally Posted by TxBrew

There's a new Glock site.

GlockForum.com

Check it out. They are running a Glock 22 contest.

Good to know, hopefully this one will be better