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Old 04-13-2012, 07:25 PM   #1
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It can be done! But should it...

If I were to make, ferment and consume the Roman Empire's ubiquitous fish sauce condiment Garum, would any of you do it with me?

This is not for the faint of heart, and I actually wouldnt want to brave it alone.

Totally serious here.

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Got some small fish guts handy?

I'd have to catch a lot of tiny fish to make maybe a gallon batch? The SWMBO would think I've finally lost it...muhahahahaha

A tribute to Pliny the Elder (the person)?

How to though? Got some historical references on what type of fish/salt brine mixture, that would be good, so as not just turn into another science project?

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Old 04-13-2012, 08:02 PM   #3
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Part of me always wanted to do this...and part of me is terrified of doing it. My problem is that I can't do it anywhere without the wife or neighbors complaining. Stupid high density housing. How do you plan to get away with the smell for 6 weeks?

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Old 04-13-2012, 08:03 PM   #4
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http://www.grouprecipes.com/112785/a...ish-sauce.html

This awesome website seems to have it all laid out. I'd likely buy whole sardines or anchovies and then maybe put the fermenter outside inside my black grill in june? I dont know.


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Got some small fish guts handy?

I'd have to catch a lot of tiny fish to make maybe a gallon batch? The SWMBO would think I've finally lost it...muhahahahaha

A tribute to Pliny the Elder (the person)?

How to though? Got some historical references on what type of fish/salt brine mixture, that would be good, so as not just turn into another science project?
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Do it outdoors

Or in the garage, in my chest freezer.

This is kind of going to be a MacGyver situation for sure, it'll take some neurons to pull this one off under the threat of the watchful nose of SWMBO

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Don't start yet, I have to get my ducks in a row. Its not a pact if I cant deliver. hehehe. Your brand of evil makes me smile, sir.

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Looks like outdoors in June is the key...why not.

Any pact worth doing should be an evil one, if not rank smelling...but yea need the heat to pull this one off

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Of the recipes I looked at, Creamy's was the onlly one that actually mentioned fermenting without being directly taken from old texts although http://www.pompeii-food-and-drink.org/garum.htm had a couple of plausible looking recipes. The only thing I don't see is a temp / humidity range. I can't imagine a texas summer being too hot but it may not be humid enough?

If I catch this thread when it comes time where you are, I may use it as an excuse to get some starter equipment and use a flask for it...we'll see in June.

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Well we are at about 100 degrees everyday for I forgot how long, How about it? Should we copy the youtube show "will it blend" by a similar knockoff of "will it be edible after fermentation and not drive everyone away screaming?" and get this thing going?

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you could retro fit something with this on the top

http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Kitc.../dp/B004MJLRBQ

just a carbon topped airlock or soemthing to that nature? i've heard good reviews about them could help the smell a ton.
i'd try some for sure! if you weren't almost directly across the country lol

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