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Old 07-19-2012, 09:18 PM   #11
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Nope, I'm good! Don't use that stuff in the beer I drink

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If the beer your drinking has any of this stuff in it, it' not really vegan!

Here is a list of the most common animal products that are used in brewing:

•Isinglass – Clarifier that is very common in brewing. Comes from the dried swim bladders of fish. Almost all cask conditioned ale uses isinglass as a clarifier, although it is more common in England than the U.S.
•Gelatin – Clarifier obtained from the skin, connective tissue, and bones of animals. Typically taken from cattle and frozen pigskin.
•Casein/Potassium Caseinate – Protein found in cow milk used as a clarifier.
•Charcoal – Used for filtering. A portion is usually produced from animal bones.
•Diatomaceous earth – Used in filtering. Comes from fossils or sea shells.
•Insects – Made into dyes and used for coloring.
•Glyceryl monostearate – Animal derived substance used to control foam.
•Pepsin – Also used to control foam; it is sometimes derived from pork.
•White sugar – Flavor additive often whitened using bone charcoal.
•Albium – Refers to any protein that is water soluble. Most common type in brewing is serum albumin, which is taken from animal blood.
•Lactose – Beers labeled as sweet, milk, or cream stouts may or may not contain lactose. Sometimes the description refers to the texture and not the ingredient. It’s best to double check these to be sure. Milk chocolate is common in certain styles, but some so-called “chocolate” porters or stouts actually contain no real chocolate at all. Some malted barley is called “chocolate malt” simply to describe the flavor the roasting imparts.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:22 PM   #12
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I need to watch the documentary. I am a dieticians worst nightmare. Tons of junk food, cook with butter, drink beer and soda, yet I am healthier than almost anyone I know. Just the luck of the draw chaps.

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Old 07-19-2012, 09:45 PM   #13
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Not trying to be a naysayer as I agree with a lot of the film...like this blogger. However, I did read some of the studies dissected by this review and she has some very good points on how the story was twisted to make their points. A VERY good counterpoint read for those of you who are into the science.

http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/for...-and-critique/

That being said, I do not cut meat out of my diet. My biggest beef with the food industry is the processed foods. Even "whole grain" bread is laced with high fructose corn syrup. We try to cut HFCS and other processed foods out. We eat a lot of rice, beans, veggies, fish, other meats, etc. We make our own treats and snacks. Avoid most frozen foods. I've felt much better just cutting out processed foods and all the crap they put in them.
Just read this entire thing. I suggest everyone who saw the documentary (Forks Over Knives) read this as well. We should all know better than to take a movie/documentary as 100% cold-hard scientific fact.
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If the beer your drinking has any of this stuff in it, it' not really vegan!

Here is a list of the most common animal products that are used in brewing:

•Isinglass – Clarifier that is very common in brewing. Comes from the dried swim bladders of fish. Almost all cask conditioned ale uses isinglass as a clarifier, although it is more common in England than the U.S.
•Gelatin – Clarifier obtained from the skin, connective tissue, and bones of animals. Typically taken from cattle and frozen pigskin.
•Casein/Potassium Caseinate – Protein found in cow milk used as a clarifier.
•Charcoal – Used for filtering. A portion is usually produced from animal bones.
•Diatomaceous earth – Used in filtering. Comes from fossils or sea shells.
•Insects – Made into dyes and used for coloring.
•Glyceryl monostearate – Animal derived substance used to control foam.
•Pepsin – Also used to control foam; it is sometimes derived from pork.
•White sugar – Flavor additive often whitened using bone charcoal.
•Albium – Refers to any protein that is water soluble. Most common type in brewing is serum albumin, which is taken from animal blood.
•Lactose – Beers labeled as sweet, milk, or cream stouts may or may not contain lactose. Sometimes the description refers to the texture and not the ingredient. It’s best to double check these to be sure. Milk chocolate is common in certain styles, but some so-called “chocolate” porters or stouts actually contain no real chocolate at all. Some malted barley is called “chocolate malt” simply to describe the flavor the roasting imparts.
........you missed the point.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:09 AM   #15
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I need to watch the documentary. I am a dieticians worst nightmare. Tons of junk food, cook with butter, drink beer and soda, yet I am healthier than almost anyone I know. Just the luck of the draw chaps.
You think the outside reflects the inside?
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I need to watch the documentary. I am a dieticians worst nightmare. Tons of junk food, cook with butter, drink beer and soda, yet I am healthier than almost anyone I know. Just the luck of the draw chaps.
Bet I'm in better shape, better looking, and better health. All the more reason to be happier and live longer.
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Bet I'm in better shape, better looking, and better health. All the more reason to be happier and live longer.
But you look like the devil.
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I had cancer and beat it twice, I eat well (avoid fast food unless absolutely necessary, generally don't eat out but once a week, eat non processed organic food, etc.) however I watched the documentary for all of about 15 minutes. It was obvious from the start the agenda of the entire documentary was to get people to stop eating meat entirely. I enjoy eating meat and you can eat healthy yet still eat meat. I never gave the documentary a second chance after realizing why it was made.

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