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Old 04-12-2008, 01:33 AM   #1
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Default Folks on the left coast might get a 1500% tax increase on beer

Higher state tax on beer?

ASSEMBLYMAN BEALL PROPOSES BIG INCREASE
By Mike Zapler
Mercury News Sacramento Bureau
Article Launched: 04/11/2008 01:34:17 AM PDT



SACRAMENTO - Joe Six-pack will have to pay a lot more to get his buzz on if Assemblyman Jim Beall has his way.
The San Jose Democrat on Thursday proposed raising the beer tax by $1.80 per six-pack, or 30 cents per can or bottle. The current tax is 2 cents per can. That's an increase of about 1,500 percent. Beall said the tax would generate $2 billion a year to fund health care services, crime prevention and programs to prevent underage drinking and addiction.
"The people who use alcohol should pay for part of the cost to society, just like we've accepted that concept with tobacco," Beall said.
He added that the beer tax hasn't been touched since 1991, and the increase then was meager.

But the freshman lawmaker will have to lift the legislative equivalent of a full keg of beer over his head to get his tax enacted. That's because it would require a two-thirds vote in the Assembly and Senate - and then, because it's a constitutional amendment, it would have to be approved by voters. Republicans say it's a non-starter.
"I predict the shelf life will be very short," said Assemblyman Roger Niello, R-Sacramento, vice chairman of the budget committee. "It's a piecemeal approach to the budget that completely avoids any discussion of spending discipline, which is fundamentally why we have the problem that we have."

Mike Fox Sr., chairman of San Jose-based beer distributor M.E. Fox & Co., said Beall's heart is in the right place. "He's very dedicated in areas of health," Fox said. "But a tax of that nature is far too grievous. The beer industry produces so much for the economy. He won't get to first base with that." Dan Gordon, co-founder of Gordon Biersch Brewing Co., calculated that the tax on a barrel of beer would go from $6.40 to $89. "We would all be looking for jobs," he said. Beall said he's targeting beer because his research showed that California undertaxes brew relative to other states, which he said isn't the case with wine and spirits. But it's also true that taking on the beer lobby will be hard enough for Beall, without letting it team up with the wine and spirits industries.
Beall, a former Santa Clara County supervisor, has focused heavily on underage drinking during his time in Sacramento. He is pushing legislation that would require the sweet alcoholic malt beverages known as "alco-pops" to include warning labels clearly stating that they contain alcohol.
And last year, Beall lobbied successfully to persuade the state Franchise Tax Board to tax "alco-pops" at the rate assessed to hard liquor products instead of beer - a move that was expected to raise the price of a six pack by about $2. The increase is scheduled to go into effect later this year.
That effort, however, did not require a two-thirds vote in the Legislature.
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Old 04-12-2008, 01:41 AM   #2
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wow, thats incredible.... In the bad way...

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Old 04-12-2008, 01:49 AM   #3
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Default Frickin' Morons

Under age drinking issues? Punish the people who sell to minors. Make the punishment brutal.

I can see the gov't start taxing HB supplies, grain , extract, hops, yeast...

Its enough to make my blood boil.

I agree with the Republican comments about stopping the outrageous overspending.

Rep or Dem - I'm for less taxes. The gov't is too wasteful of my hard earned dollars.

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Old 04-12-2008, 01:55 AM   #4
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It doesn't have much of a chance of passing. It is a stupid proposal to say the leeast.

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Beall neads a cock punch. With a 15 lb sledgehammer.

That is all.

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Old 04-12-2008, 02:23 AM   #6
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Beall neads a cock punch. With a 15 lb sledgehammer.

That is all.
Damn Evan - That's the 2nd time I agreed with you tonight!!


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...I can see the gov't start taxing HB supplies, grain , extract, hops, yeast...
Won't happen. What will happen is everything will be priced out of range to where NO ONE will be able to afford anything...
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Won't happen. What will happen is everything will be priced out of range to where NO ONE will be able to afford anything...
I was thinking on the premise that the ingredients are used to make alcoholic beverages.

Grains might be the exception since they have multiple uses. Is malt grain used in other products besides beer?

In any case I hope you are right!!
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Old 04-12-2008, 04:04 AM   #9
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Famous last words.

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Don't worry, we're from the government. We're here to help you.
The politicians answer to everything is to tax it so they can spend the money buying votes to stay in power so they can tax more things for more money to buy votes to stay in power.....You get the drift.

It's all BS.
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I concur...all politics are BS. RDWHAHB.

I also say the same for organized religion. Both those topics are not allowed at my house.

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