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Old 01-07-2013, 04:00 PM   #1
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I got pulled over the other day (plates are expired...whoops). Anyway he gave me a $10 ticket for operating without proof of insurance. I have insurance, just didn't have the updated cards in the car (policy renewed last month).

Anyway, wisconsin statue 344.65 states:

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344.65  Violations.
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(a) Any person who violates s. 344.62 (1) may be required to forfeit not more than $500.
(b) Except as provided in par. (c), any person who violates s. 344.62 (2) may be required to forfeit $10.
(c) No person charged with violating s. 344.62 (2) may be convicted if the person produces proof that he or she was in compliance with s. 344.62 (1) at the time the person was issued a uniform traffic citation for violating s. 344.62 (2). This proof may be produced either at the time of the person's appearance in court in response to the citation or in the office of the traffic officer issuing the citation.
in (c), does "convicted" mean "fine"? So if I show up at the police station with my proof showing I had coverage, I'll get out of the fine?
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:03 PM   #2
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So if I show up at the police station with my proof showing I had coverage, I'll get out of the fine?

Correct.

I know in Oklahoma you have a few days to show up with your proof of insurance.

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Part (b), which establishes the $10 fine, also says "Except as provided in par. (c)"

And consider yourself lucky. In Iowa, the fine is higher. Much, MUCH higher. Like a couple hundred bucks. But you also have 7 days to prove to the court that you had insurance in place at the time, and then the fine (and citation) is voided.

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Old 01-07-2013, 04:53 PM   #4
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Wow!! $10? I've never heard of any fine for anything that low!
In Washington, the fines start at $250.

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Wow!! $10? I've never heard of any fine for anything that low!
I once got a $10 ticket for parking in my yard. What I found even more ridiculous was I was in the garage at the time when I thought I saw someone in my yard. The cop opted to fine me instead of letting move the car.
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I once got a $10 ticket for parking in my yard. What I found even more ridiculous was I was in the garage at the time when I thought I saw someone in my yard. The cop opted to fine me instead of letting move the car.
Wow! I'm glad I don't live in town.
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$10 is the fine for not wearing a seatbelt here as well.

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$10 is the fine for not wearing a seatbelt here as well.
I believe it's $101 here.
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Here, if you bring in your proof of insurance, which you had before the ticket, they will drop it.

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This $10 fine business is insane, everything is $130 or up here, except for parking violations which are like $20 or so. No insurance (or no plates showing up to date insurance) is easily over $200.

Who cares about a $10 fine? Though the way things are worded here at least, once you pay said fine it means you accept guilt for said crime, and are thus "convicted", goes on your record, etc.

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