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Old 02-08-2011, 03:28 AM   #21
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Many of these transactions pass through with the retailer having NO access to the card number if it is an online purchase. I wouldn't be too quick to blame AHB quite yet. Not saying it isn't a possible link. Just saying a properly setup account won't even let the owner of the business see the number. That is why many places make you re-enter the number every time you make a purchase.

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For those of you who have trouble keeping track of purchases, or just want to be able to see all account activity updated immediately, might want to try some thing like mint.com

I've been using it for a number of months now and it's been a good way to keep track of expenditures and if fraudulent purchases did show up I could spot them quickly and blow the whistle.

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Many of these transactions pass through with the retailer having NO access to the card number if it is an online purchase. I wouldn't be too quick to blame AHB quite yet. Not saying it isn't a possible link. Just saying a properly setup account won't even let the owner of the business see the number. That is why many places make you re-enter the number every time you make a purchase.
Austin Homebrew doesn't work that way. They ring up the charges by hand after you submit your order. That info is directly from Forrest when I asked about something last week.
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I can't even remember the last time I bought something at walmart, and I've never bought from them online.

I am leaning towards AHS.
No, it seems like when they get the hacked info, they use the stolen credit at wally world. I guess like Remilard said, there is the sheer numbers of folks shopping there, maybe that's why the rings (and in my case they said it was a ring out of rural michigan, using the credit accounts to convert to giftcards) use them, since they can be lost in amongst the many purchases.

Walmart must have a huge loss prevention department dealing with this crap on a daily basis.
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No, it seems like when they get the hacked info, they use the stolen credit at wally world.
Ah... sorry.. I misunderstood.

My fraudulent chargers were $120 to Pizza Hut, $560 to some lawfirm, and about $900 to some "Online Services" company, whatever the f*ck that is.
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Austin Homebrew doesn't work that way. They ring up the charges by hand after you submit your order. That info is directly from Forrest when I asked about something last week.
Hmm..... When I was involved with this stuff you were transferred https:// via secure connection (read encrypted) so the stuff was between the customer and the card service directly. I'll have to check to see if his site uses certificates.
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Ah... sorry.. I misunderstood.

My fraudulent chargers were $120 to Pizza Hut, $560 to some lawfirm, and about $900 to some "Online Services" company, whatever the f*ck that is.
Seems like the law firm charge should be easy to track down.
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I just received a small fraudulent charge on my account today. I too ordered from AHS a few weeks back. Luckily Bank of America caught it and called me.

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Hmm..... When I was involved with this stuff you were transferred https:// via secure connection (read encrypted) so the stuff was between the customer and the card service directly. I'll have to check to see if his site uses certificates.
Check what you want, but here's a quote from my PM inbox from Forrest, when I asked how to pay for something that he was holding for me, but wasn't on his website, preventing me from putting it in my cart.

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How do I go about paying for it? It won't be in basket, so...
We process orders by hand. We will ring it up.

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Check what you want, but here's a quote from my PM inbox from Forrest, when I asked how to pay for something that he was holding for me, but wasn't on his website, preventing me from putting it in my cart.
They sport a verisign certificate logo but I can't get far enough into the process without creating an account. The certificate would only mean that it gets to them over an encrypted connection.

The card companies charge a premium (or used to) to do on line transactions for some reason. Cover fraud? Not sure if AHB decided to save a few bucks and do it 'by hand'? Then a rogue employee or compromised computer has access to the info.
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