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Old 02-07-2010, 05:25 AM   #1
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Default Drain keeps falling off (Plumbing help?)

Our landlord has been here 3 times, and has "fixed" it every time. And it really isn't.
Basically, the drain will just randomly come unattached. Mostly under one sink, but occasionally the other one (and once, both at the same time- the whole thing fell off...).

Here's a picture of it after it fell off today (second time this week). Sorry for the quality... not much light under the sink.


Basically, the sink is threaded. The PVC pipe is not. The nut is threaded. Is this normal? I've lost confidence that the landlord actually knows what he's doing here, and would appreciate a second opinion. Thanks!
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Old 02-07-2010, 05:48 AM   #2
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it needs a new 1.5" nylon compression gasket.... $.25 at ace hardware. unscrew the cap and you'll see what i mean. then slip the cap on then the gasket in the right orientation and lift up to the sink.. insert as far as you can safely while tightening.

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Old 02-07-2010, 06:04 AM   #3
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it needs a new 1.5" nylon compression gasket.... $.25 at ace hardware. unscrew the cap and you'll see what i mean. then slip the cap on then the gasket in the right orientation and lift up to the sink.. insert as far as you can safely while tightening.
The gasket- that's the thin circle washer-type thing, right? What is the correct orientation for that? Skinny edge up or down?
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:29 AM   #4
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the tapered side goes up... so as the nut it tightened, it will compress the drain. every time you break down one of these connections, the gasket needs to be replaced, unless it was just replaced and you need to make a minor adjustment. yours was in there for years, as it lost all elasticity.
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For luck, clean the outside of the drain pipe and dry it off before you reassemble everything. If it's greasy or slippery the gasket won't be able to hold it in place as well.

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Old 02-07-2010, 03:25 PM   #6
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yeah, then use a little 5200 as a lubricant!

(yes, this is a joke! - unless you are renting!)
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The picture is blurry but it looks like your landlord has used the wrong piece to hook up the drain. There should be a flange on the top of the pvc section that fits up against drain. This is called a "tail piece." The plastic nut that is now on the metal drain slides up the tail piece and the flange is then between the nut and the drain so it is held securely.

Do a Google image search for "sink tail piece" to see what they look like. Sorry, I have no idea how to post a picture or I would have done so. Good luck.
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Like this?
http://www.watts.com/prod_images/hi-res/705666.jpg

It definitely is completely straight at the top, doesn't have a flange.
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Plumber here. Here's a clear photo of what you need:



The pipe is called a flanged tailpiece. Don't forget the tailpiece washer.
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Yes. That makes a lot more sense. Now to convince my landlord...
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