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Old 02-16-2011, 08:20 PM   #1
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My homebrew club is having a Stout & Stogie party and I'm pretty much a cigar noob. One of the members is having a roll yer own class for $5 so I'm going to do that. Tonight I'm going to local cigar bar to buy a cigar or two and an inexpensive cutter and hopefully to learn to at least not look like such a noob with a cigar (like puking or whatever). I've smoked cigarettes for many years.

I've done some googling and about.com'ing just to be able to make this post (I'd have never known I needed a cutter or that there is a cigar bar right up the road).

How many cigars would one expect to consume at such a party?
Any recommendations on 'beginner' cigars to buy (I've got the about.com top 5 list).

I used to hate coffee...love it now.
I used to hate Scotch...love it now.
New vice for me? Just buy a $500 humidor now?

Any help/discussion appreciated...even bad Monica Lewinsky jokes.

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I love cigars but don't get to smoke them often at all. You will probably only smoke one or two. There are already a few threads on here that have some really good ones listed.

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I work for a cigar company based in Miami, here's our website.

http://drewestate.com

Our ACID cigar line is one of the most popular lines for beginning smokers. Our sticks are infused with botanicals and oils which make them totally unique. Don't think of them as "flavored", because they are nothing like the piece-of-crap Phillies, etc.

If you aren't interested in infused or flavored cigars, there are tons of other choices out there. Our Chateau Real line is also very popular among new smokers, as it is a light, flavorful cigar.

Also, typically when I used to go to "herfs", the accepted name for a cigar get together, I would smoke 2-3 cigars over the course of the evening. I would invest in a humidor that holds ~100 cigars at least. When humidor marketing says it holds 100, it really means around 75.

I use a cooler to hold my many boxes of cigars, and they work incredibly well. They're airtight, and hold humidity and temperature very well. Here's an article I wrote on building my cooler humidor, called a Coolidor.

http://beerreviewdude.com/random/my-...lidor-project/

For humidification, I would use beads. The green foam that comes in normal humidors sucks, and tends to get moldy pretty quickly. Here are the beads we sell.

http://shop.drewestate.com/category/cigar-mechanic

Lastly, I would pick up a digital hygrometer, which is a unit that measures Relative Humidity in your humidor. The analog hygrometers that come built in to a lot of humidors are totally inaccurate. You can pick up a digital hygrometer from Walmart for about $6, near the thermostats.

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Old 02-16-2011, 08:38 PM   #4
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The owner of the cigar bar should be able to suggest a good noob cigar for you. I would suggest something on the mild-medium range, say a Macanudo, rather than a full-bodied. I spent way too many years of my youth smoking bad Mexican/ditch weed, and even that didn't prepare me for a full-bodied cigar.

Also, since you've been a cigarette smoker, remember one VERY important thing...DON'T INHALE!!!

Find a good stout to go along with your cigar. I've had Goose Island's Bourbon County, or my own Bourbon Oatmeal Stout hold up very well to a cigar.

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The owner of the cigar bar should be able to suggest a good noob cigar for you. I would suggest something on the mild-medium range, say a Macanudo, rather than a full-bodied.
I agree, but I'd STRONGLY recommend avoiding Macanudos, they taste like absolutely nothing. Not a good example of a good cigar at all. I would avoid the mass produced cigars in general. Macanudos are like the Budweiser of the cigar world. It's technically beer, but not many people would consider it delicious, flavorful beer.
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Start looking into wine coolers that you'll convert into humidors so you can maintain perfect temperature along with humidity down there in Floriduh for all of those boxes of legitimate Cubans you order from (censored) and wait with sweaty palms for them to sneak through customs to your front door. Then there's the dreaded CC bill...
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Start looking into wine coolers that you'll convert into humidors so you can maintain perfect temperature along with humidity down there in Floriduh for all of those boxes of legitimate Cubans you order from (censored) and wait with sweaty palms for them to sneak through customs to your front door. Then there's the dreaded CC bill...
Yup, yup. Also, stay away from CigarBid.com. It is possibly the most addictive auction site on the face of the earth.
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Romeo y Julieta No. 4; preferrably cuban, but dominican is okay....

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Couldn't agree with that more. You will blow through money quicker than you can imagine on there.
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As it'll be your first time, I'd hold back a little & keep it to 1-2 cigars. It tends to creep up on you & you'll go from feeling a little uneasy to puking in very little time. I would try to find some good cigars in the mild-med range, I agree Macanudos taste like nothing. An Acid is a great way to start if you don't mind a little extra sweetness, personally I enjoy them as a change of pace.

The list of beginner cigars is ok, but you definitely don't have to spend very much to get good tasting cigars. One of my favorite brands (Indian Tabac) makes very cheap cigars that are excellent.

If you get into it, no need to go crazy & buy an expensive humidor. As noted above a cooler with some beads works wonders, it takes all the guesswork out of keeping cigars (I recommend the 65% beads).

Also, I've heard the Liga Privada line (made by Drew Estate) is excellent, just haven't had a chance to to try one myself yet.

Last note, I smoked cigars for about 5 years & have almost entirely converted to smoking a pipe now. I enjoy both immensely. Both pair very well with beer.

Sounds like fun, have a good time!

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